grain mill motor

[GNBrews]

can anyone explain how to wire this guy up? am i just wiring hot to the posts marked "blue" and "c" and grounding the chassis or what?
i'm going to go grab a couple more motors, in case this one doesn't work. (they're free, after all )

Wire your hot (white) wire to the "Blue" post, and common (black) to the "C" post. Your ground wire (green) should be attached to the chassis. If the motor turns the wrong way, connect the hot (white) wire to the "Yellow" post instead to reverse it.

 

[iaefebs]

Yup, that's the one I found recommended here. And with these little motors 33% more torque is nothing to trivialize - running mine in CCW mode it's plenty strong enough for my Barley Crusher...

Cheers!

I see a few threads that recommend running the 5-1098 in CCW. What becomes cloudy is that in a GE motor rotation is determined by observing rotation from the back of the motor. Now when the motor is CCW the gearbox output is CW. It is not clear in my mind if we are all making the same observation.

Looking at the fan blades It appears that this motor was designed to run CW with an output after gearbox being CCW. So I just need to flip the grain mill rollers....can I get an amen?

 

[bengerman]

Wire your hot (white) wire to the "Blue" post, and common (black) to the "C" post. Your ground wire (green) should be attached to the chassis. If the motor turns the wrong way, connect the hot (white) wire to the "Yellow" post instead to reverse it.

Thank you! I'll give it a go.

 

[day_trippr]

I see a few threads that recommend running the 5-1098 in CCW. What becomes cloudy is that in a GE motor rotation is determined by observing rotation from the back of the motor. Now when the motor is CCW the gearbox output is CW. It is not clear in my mind if we are all making the same observation.

Looking at the fan blades It appears that this motor was designed to run CW with an output after gearbox being CCW. So I just need to flip the grain mill rollers....can I get an amen?

"Amen".

Yeah, the whole "which way is CCW" thing is muddled when the motor shaft spins one way and the gearbox output shaft spins the other.

But once you've operated the motor in both directions it will be obvious for which direction the gears were purposefully cut, and that's when the gear shaft is turning CCW when "observed" from the fan end of the unit. The gear train makes way less noise in CCW than CW...

Cheers!

 

[iaefebs]

"Amen".

Yeah, the whole "which way is CCW" thing is muddled when the motor shaft spins one way and the gearbox output shaft spins the other.

But once you've operated the motor in both directions it will be obvious for which direction the gears were purposefully cut, and that's when the gear shaft is turning CCW when "observed" from the fan end of the unit. The gear train makes way less noise in CCW than CW...

Cheers!

 

[g-love]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the common motor is actually http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=5-1098, isn't it? It's slightly faster, and has slightly more torque.

It doesn't look like this model is available any longer, the 5-1074 that Spartan mentioned is though. Is that model sufficient, or should I keep searching. I want to hook this up directly to my barley crusher using a coupling. Any thoughts?

 

[Texan]

I am Looking to buy one as well but the shown motor is 107 RPM, I thought the target RPM was 180 ish?

 

[Spartan1979]

It doesn't look like this model is available any longer, the 5-1074 that Spartan mentioned is though. Is that model sufficient, or should I keep searching. I want to hook this up directly to my barley crusher using a coupling. Any thoughts?

I've had no problems with mine. It hasn't jammed once and I've started it with the hopper full and the hopper empty.

It is a little bit slow, a few more rpm's would be nice.

 

[g-love]

Awesome. Thanks Spartan. I'm going to order one. Slow is ok. I'll do other things while it grinds.

 

[infection]

anyone know how much torque a garage door opener motor puts out?
for $9.95 it may be worth a test
Surplus Center - 110 RPM 115 VAC GARAGE DOOR OPENER GEARMOTOR

 

[day_trippr]

anyone know how much torque a garage door opener motor puts out? for $9.95 it may be worth a test

Relative to running a consumer grade grain mill, I'm guessing "plenty".

The challenge is going to be plumbing that beast to a roller mill...

Cheers!

 

[JKoravos]

Duty cycle could be an issue with the garage door motor, too, but it's worth a try!

 

[noodle23]

Here's a good link on motorizing grain mills. Has good info on motors, RPM's, fly wheels etc. Hope this helps.

http://hbd.org/carboy/motorizing_a_malt_mill.htm

Ok so is it me or is anybody else not getting to or finding the the motorizing malt mill page?

 

[infection]

Ok so is it me or is anybody else not getting to or finding the the motorizing malt mill page?

looks like it's gone.....use the archive:
Motorizing a Malt Mill

 

[bcgpete]

Here's a 1/2HP motor, 110V for $35 + free shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-2HP-ELECT...796?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e65ba714

Just unbolt the pump off the motor and you should be set. Too bad the pump is only rated to 140F, it's a steal of a deal.

I have a spare V-belt sheave (1.5" 5/8"), PM if interested.

Hopefully this thread isn't too dead....

Did anybody use this motor? It seems to be a great price.

Thanks

 

[bdjohns1]

Hopefully this thread isn't too dead....

Did anybody use this motor? It seems to be a great price.

Thanks

Depends what the RPM is. Most likely, you'll have to get a belt, pulleys, etc. to make it work. Your average motor is going to be 1700 or 3400 RPM unless it's got an integral gear reducer. You want more like 200-300 rpm.

The most popular option I've seen lately is the harbor freight low speed drill. Lots of torque, and can be had for $40 or so with their ubiquitous 20% off coupons. I used a piece of scrap stainless rod stock, a love joy coupler, and a couple of bearing blocks to decouple the drill and prevent putting unneeded lateral stress on the bearings in the mill.

 

[bcgpete]

Depends what the RPM is. Most likely, you'll have to get a belt, pulleys, etc. to make it work. Your average motor is going to be 1700 or 3400 RPM unless it's got an integral gear reducer. You want more like 200-300 rpm.

The most popular option I've seen lately is the harbor freight low speed drill. Lots of torque, and can be had for $40 or so with their ubiquitous 20% off coupons. I used a piece of scrap stainless rod stock, a love joy coupler, and a couple of bearing blocks to decouple the drill and prevent putting unneeded lateral stress on the bearings in the mill.

Thanks for the reply. I ended up finding a cheaper motor and got the pulley's ordered from mcmaster. I have the rebel grain mill, which is recommended 350-450 rpm! I can't wait to get it running!