Good IPA? Crystal 20L?

[kinkothecarp]

10 lbs Light/Pale Malt Extract Syrup with 7lb added at 60minutes and 3lbs added at 15 minutes.
4oz Crystal 20L

60 mins with 2oz Admiral
15 mins with 1oz Amarillo
5 mins with 1oz Amarillo
1 mins with 1.0oz Citra

American Ale II

 

[pcollins]

Interesting. Thank you for posting this.

I'm sure there will be more experienced extract brewers out there to reply but this looks good to me. I thinking of heading in exactly this direction as soon as I taste where my current recipe is at.

I'm using 7lb of Pale LME with 1.5lbs of Crystal 70. Less hops than you with 2oz N. Brewer at 60 minutes, 1oz Cascade at 5 minutes and 1oz Cascade for dry hopping in secondary.

The other thing I might try is to go with a single hop all the way through and see how that is.

Looks good!

 

[McGarnigle]

I'm not sure what the IBUs are in either case. kinko has a higher OG and therefore needs a higher IBU.

pcollins: you may be a bit heavy on the crystal 70. Half as much might suffice; I'd be curious if others agree.

Cascade dry-hopping is awesome, but as those would cover aroma, maybe your 1 minute hops should be @ 5 or 10 minutes.

 

[pcollins]

@McGarnigle: I'll plead ignorance here. What drawbacks are there to having too much of the crystal 70? I'm all for saving a bit of money by cutting it in half but to what end? Aside from colour, how would my brew change if I switched to crystal 20?

Cheers

 

[Neonsilver]

@McGarnigle: I'll plead ignorance here. What drawbacks are there to having too much of the crystal 70? I'm all for saving a bit of money by cutting it in half but to what end? Aside from colour, how would my brew change if I switched to crystal 20?

Cheers

The 70 is fine but that much crystal is going to create a rather sweet beer in a style where sweet is not looked upon highly.

 

[pcollins]

Excellent! Thank you for that suggestion. Probably next time I brew I'll cut back and switch to slightly paler and see what we get.

How bad can it be? LOL

 

[Neonsilver]

Excellent! Thank you for that suggestion. Probably next time I brew I'll cut back and switch to slightly paler and see what we get.

How bad can it be? LOL

As everybody else says, you'll make beer. That's also why we are homebrewers, so we can play around with recipes.

 

[dedhedjed]

I just brewed something similar-ish tonight.

7.5 # Extra Pale LME
1.25 # Crystal 40L

Wyeast 1056


.75 oz Columbus 60min
.5 oz Columbus 30min
.5 oz Columbus 15min
.5 oz Centennial 15min
.5 oz Cascade 15min
.5 oz Centennial 5 min
.5 oz Cascade 5 min

86 IBU

Plan to dryhop with Cascade and Centennial

That much Crystal will probably make for a fairly sweet IPA, but I think/hope that the aggressive hop schedule (especially the high AA columbus) will balance it out.

We'll see in a few weeks...

 

[Rick500]

4 oz of crystal 20 doesn't sound out of line to me.

 

[KFBass]

Do the different Crystal numbers effect the taste that much or is it strictly a colour thing? Like if I used 4oz of crystal 80 instead of 4oz of crystal 20 would the end product be sweeter? Would it be sweeter and darker??

EDIT for those of you who have brewed something similar your tasting notes would be great. I'm trying to plan out what my house beer for the summer would be, and leaving towards and IPA/pale ale

 

[Neonsilver]

Going from 20 to 80 would give you a darker beer to start with but it would also change the taste. Next time you are at the LHBS ask to try some of the grain from each and you will find out what each one adds.

 

[Rick500]

As Neonsilver said, yes it does affect the taste, not just the color.

 

[charliec]

I brewed an IPA (an Ballast point Big Eye IPA clone)
9 # Light malt extract
1/2 # 10 crystal malt
1/4 Caraplis
1/2 Victory

steep grains 30 mins. @ 150 degrees
60 min boil
1# LME for 60min
8 # LMW at 15 min to go
Hops
2oz centennial 60 min
2 oz centennial at flame out
dry hopped with 2 oz centennial
Primary 14 days
Secondary none
4oz corn sugar for bottle condition to 2.7 volumes of CO2
OG 1.079
FG 1.020
IBU 82
SRM 6
ABV 7.6


This turned out Great!!!! Hoppy as hell, great taste, Good head retention mine lasted right to the last drop. I think I make this my hause Ale. when I'm ready to go AG I'll run it thru beersmith for the conversion.

 

[reeyawd]

I brewed an IPA (an Ballast point Big Eye IPA clone)
9 # Light malt extract
1/2 # 10 crystal malt
1/4 Caraplis
1/2 Victory

steep grains 30 mins. @ 150 degrees
60 min boil
1# LME for 60min
8 # LMW at 15 min to go
Hops
2oz centennial 60 min
2 oz centennial at flame out
dry hopped with 2 oz centennial
Primary 14 days
Secondary none
4oz corn sugar for bottle condition to 2.7 volumes of CO2
OG 1.079
FG 1.020
IBU 82
SRM 6
ABV 7.6


This turned out Great!!!! Hoppy as hell, great taste, Good head retention mine lasted right to the last drop. I think I make this my hause Ale. when I'm ready to go AG I'll run it thru beersmith for the conversion.

Hey charliec. I've been looking for a big eye clone...my favorite beer when living in San Diego. I brewed up this version. I didn't stagger the LME during the boil...and threw it into secondary after 8 days...added the hops....and ended up leaving it for about 30 days! The beer turned out great...my best so far. I have some tweaks that I plan on trying out...but thanks for the recommend. Didn't turn out like Big Eye for me...but damn good.

 

[reeyawd]

Hey charliec. I've been looking for a big eye clone...my favorite beer when living in San Diego. I brewed up this version. I didn't stagger the LME during the boil...and threw it into secondary after 8 days...added the hops....and ended up leaving it for about 30 days! The beer turned out great...my best so far. I have some tweaks that I plan on trying out...but thanks for the recommend. Didn't turn out like Big Eye for me...but damn good.

One more thing. I was hesitant with the 60min/0min hop schedule...but it was great. There actually is a full range of flavor there. I plan on exploring that idea more.

 

[sudsmcgee]

One more thing. I was hesitant with the 60min/0min hop schedule...but it was great. There actually is a full range of flavor there. I plan on exploring that idea more.

What was your boil volume?

 

[reeyawd]

What was your boil volume?

I'd guess around 4gal. I topped it off in the carboy.