I'm using three banjos on my stand and a 30 psi regulator as per manufacturers instructions. I ordered flexible gas hose....stainless...to get from black pipe to burners. Hose says it's rated to 1/2 psi. Lots of guys are using flexible. Justignoring the rating?
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WardFlex/GasTite CSST and their fittings are good for 25 PSI. The deal with buying WardFlex/GasTite is that you have to be "Certified" to buy it. Unless you know the guy behind the counter. Also, you'll need the funky tubing cutter to cut the stuff and the special fittings......Brasscraft doesn't mention any pressure rating on their gas whips.....Klattu (sp?) knows a lot about gas stuff. Maybe he can advice....
OneHoppyGuy
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We use proper gas line that we cut and make up to fit. It's marked CGA 350 PSI. This is gas, so safety first.
This is one place you do NOT want to cut corners. KABOOM!!!!
This is one place you do NOT want to cut corners. KABOOM!!!!
The lines you are speaking of - they can handle much higher pressure. I had the same concerns when I got mine - I immediately called the manufacturer. To be approved, they can only be rated at 1/2psi. But they are pressure tested to 100psi.
You are fine - don't change your hose.
You are fine - don't change your hose.
roadymi
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I'm sure the insurance adjuster will completely understand when it blows.......Is it really worth the risk?
30 psi seems like a lot.....I install whole house propane vapor systems at 12" water column which is about 1/2 psi.
Insurance - for? You think any home insurance company is going to cover anything related to a DIY (or "off-the-shelf") brewstand? I assure you not.
This not my personal opinion - it's direct from the horses mouth. To get CSA approval they cannot rate the lines any higher than 1/2psi. There is nothing about what we do that will be approved - so we do not have to be concerned about this. So - the next logical question is then what are the lines tested for - they are tested for 100psi - way more than any of these should ever see. This is true of the store-bought Brasscraft lines as well.
This not my personal opinion - it's direct from the horses mouth. To get CSA approval they cannot rate the lines any higher than 1/2psi. There is nothing about what we do that will be approved - so we do not have to be concerned about this. So - the next logical question is then what are the lines tested for - they are tested for 100psi - way more than any of these should ever see. This is true of the store-bought Brasscraft lines as well.
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OneHoppyGuy
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Like I said CGA hose is rated at 350 PSI and it is embossed in the hose. This is used on commercial and residential propane systems. We used to buy hose from Suburban Propane until we started buying in bulk. Tell me Suburban Propane's equipment is not insurable. Yes, we are talking different equipment, but I'm suggesting the use of equipment that meets the same standard.
Cutting corners on gas supply with inferior hose, solenoids and frame routed plumbing is a recipe for disaster.
Do yourself a favor (and your neighbors) do it right!
Cutting corners on gas supply with inferior hose, solenoids and frame routed plumbing is a recipe for disaster.
Do yourself a favor (and your neighbors) do it right!
roadymi
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They sell high pressure hose for a reason...........why cut corners for a few bucks
http://www.propanewarehouse.com/propaneFlexLines_detail.asp?flexType=High-Pressure-Propane-Flex-Line
http://www.propanewarehouse.com/highpressurehose.asp
I've sat through many hours of training and safety video's of what happens when people don't follow guidelines & don't know what the hell they are doing..........it ain't worth it.
http://www.propanewarehouse.com/propaneFlexLines_detail.asp?flexType=High-Pressure-Propane-Flex-Line
http://www.propanewarehouse.com/highpressurehose.asp
I've sat through many hours of training and safety video's of what happens when people don't follow guidelines & don't know what the hell they are doing..........it ain't worth it.
I guess the manufacturer must be lying. I understand your cause for concern - but when someone says something is pressure tested at 100psi I think that's pretty convincing. I'm not suggesting everyone go out and buy these hoses - I'm saying if you have them there's no need to freak out. The engineer said in no unplain words that the hoses are rated for 1/2psi to conform to CSA rating but are pressure tested at 100psi.
Another source for high pressure hoses: http://www.rvsupplyparts.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=237.
roadymi
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What you choose to use on your own equipment is your choice, I just find it very unresponsible to promote to others the use of inadequate equipment.
Margins of safety are factored in for a reason. The "High Pressure" hoses are tested at a factor much higher than their intended usage also.
Bottom line if you are building a low pressure system use low pressure equipment...........and if you build a high pressure system spend the little extra money to buy high pressure equipment.
Margins of safety are factored in for a reason. The "High Pressure" hoses are tested at a factor much higher than their intended usage also.
Bottom line if you are building a low pressure system use low pressure equipment...........and if you build a high pressure system spend the little extra money to buy high pressure equipment.
OneHoppyGuy
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Good! Now go have a fizzy beer as punishment. 
That would be so wrong...
That would be so wrong...
MetallHed
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Ok.. I'm hoping this is what I need, because if it is then I'm SUPER happy!
What I'm looking for is to extend my current burners propane hose so that it can reach from my top tier to the ground. Right now I have to prop the tank on a stool so the hose will reach the burner on the top shelf.
If I get this, will that be the extension I need to go from the end of my burner's hose to the propane tank without cutting into anything?
There should be no problem with that although that picture is not accurate to the description which says 3/8" female flare on both ends. So you may or may not need to adapt - I don't know your situation well enough to comment on that.
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