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Hello, So Ive been doing ALOT of brewers best kits and did some Mr beer kits...Now I'm wanting to move to All-Grain, i went on northern brewer and found a cream ale all grain recipe. I was reading the ingredients and directions and I know I'll get made fun of but I'm so confused. How much water do i use, how do i know what to put in what? What is a single infusion? What is a sacch' rest and a mashout? It also says boil addition & times, When do i do that? lol. I know, i know its ignorant of me to write this but I really want to learn. And if anyone knows a good all grain with STEP BY STEP instructions shoot it my way...
Anyway, this is what it says. Please someone help, I love american cream ales..

Mash Ingredients:
7lbs Rahr 2-row pale
0.75lbs Gambrinus Honey Malt
0.25lbs Belgian Biscuit Malt

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion
Sacch' Rest: 150 degrees F for 60 minutes
Mashout: 170 degrees F for 10 minutes

BOILD ADDITIONS & TIMES:
1oz Cluster (60 min)

Also why is everything so cheap? http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/cream-ale-all-grain-kit.html

Usually when I buy the brewers best theyre like 45 dollars. Anyway, if someone can lead me in the right direction and help me out that would be much appreciated. Thank you VERY much

Chris
 
First thing, do you have a mash tun?

YouTube is a great place to learn.

For water, a general rule of thumb is 1.4 gallons of water per pound of grain for boil.

Basically, heat that water to 160 degrees, pour it over grain in a mash tun and keep it rest for an hour at around 152 degrees .

For sparge, I can't remember how much water per pound. Currently I'm a sleep deprived father of an infant at 4 in the morning......

Heat sparge water to 170, pour in tun, let rest for 10 min. cycle the wort through grains a few times.

Add all that to kettle and follow the boil.

I love and hate northern brewer. Their kits are affordable and tasty. They probably have some monkey putting kits together and that's why they are a good price. It's much more expensive to build your own recipe on their site.

I'm getting ready to make my wife a 3 gal batch of my version of bud lite lime. Cost more for the 3 gallons than to get a 5 gallon kit.


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60 min is the start if boiling the wort. Once it starts to boil, add your hops and let boil for 60 min.

I started brewing right into all grain over a year ago using brooklyn brew shops one gallon kits. A bit $$$ at 40$ for the kit , but, it was a nice stepping stone and helped me become comfortable with the process.


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I highly recommend getting beersmith, plug all of the data into Beersmith and it will let you know how much water, what temp, and so on, it is well worth the few bucks that you'll spend on it.
 
Typically, you'll want to use around 1.5 quarts (not gallons!) per pound of grain for mashing. There are a few good free online calculators for calculating your strike temperature (the temperature you need to have your water at before you add the grains to get you close to the mash temp). Sacch rest is the temp at which the enzymes break down the starches into fermentable sugars, and should be held steady for the entire hour. Single infusion refers to the number of temperature changes (in this case, you have one sacch rest). If you need to change your mash temp during the mash, to help get a particular profile, it will be a multiple infusion (not the case here).

Mash out is debatably optional, if you are doing a batch sparge. The idea is to 1. Denature the enzymes to stop the sugar conversion and 2. Make the mash thinner and easy flowing to help lauter (draining the wort off the grains), minimizing stuck sparges.

I recommend reading "how to brew" for a good description of how to do an all grain, what these steps are and what they are for. I have only one AG batch under my belt, and it seems intimidating, but once you actually do it, it's quite an enjoyable process, and a lot less scary.
 
Typically, you'll want to use around 1.5 quarts (not gallons!) per pound of grain for mashing. There are a few good free online calculators for calculating your strike temperature (the temperature you need to have your water at before you add the grains to get you close to the mash temp). Sacch rest is the temp at which the enzymes break down the starches into fermentable sugars, and should be held steady for the entire hour. Single infusion refers to the number of temperature changes (in this case, you have one sacch rest). If you need to change your mash temp during the mash, to help get a particular profile, it will be a multiple infusion (not the case here).

Mash out is debatably optional, if you are doing a batch sparge. The idea is to 1. Denature the enzymes to stop the sugar conversion and 2. Make the mash thinner and easy flowing to help lauter (draining the wort off the grains), minimizing stuck sparges.

I recommend reading "how to brew" for a good description of how to do an all grain, what these steps are and what they are for. I have only one AG batch under my belt, and it seems intimidating, but once you actually do it, it's quite an enjoyable process, and a lot less scary.


Lol, yeah! Like I said, I'm a sleep deprived father typing at 4 I'm the morning.


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You guys are awesome for helping me out...Seriously, no forum ever has been so nice and helped me out so much. Thank you guys!
 
I downloaded beer smith and it confuses the living hell out of me lol, Im not sure where you put how much grains you have to get how much water you should need?
 
I second the fact that this is an extremely helpful forum. It's rare to see bad attitudes here, and the advice is usually excellent.

Doing an all-grain batch can seem intimidating at first, but once you know what you're doing it's a piece of cake.

First, the water:

Use an online calculator such as this one (below) to calculate how much water you'll need for the strike and sparge, and what temperature to heat it to. This recipe calls for mashing at 150 degrees for 60 minutes. You'll actually have to heat the water to more than 152 so that when you stir it in with your grains, it will rest at 150. The water at this stage is referred to as your "strike water". Once you put it in, as someone else on this forum said, "stir it like it owes you money." After one hour you are going to drain this water (wort) from your mashtun. Be sure to collect the first quart or so and pour it gently back into the mashtun. This is because the first little bit coming out will be cloudy with bits of grain in it. After that it'll be significantly 'cleaner'. The next portion of heated water to go into the mash tun is called your 'sparge water'. Generally you want to aim for around 167F temperature in the mash tun. The calculator linked below doesn't tell how hot to make the water to reach that temperature, but if you aim for the low-mid 170s you'll probably get in the right ball park. The recipe says to aim for a sparge temp of 170, but I've heard that you don't want to overshoot 170 as it'll increase your chances of releasing tannins from the grain which will taste unpleasant in the beer. Again, stirr it like it owes you money. Let that rest for another 10 minutes before draining, and following the same procedure of re-circulating the first quart or so. After it's drained you can squeeze the grains (I use a firm pitcher, press down and roll the grains towards the spiggot). No pint left behind!

A few tips you may find helpful:

1) Boil a kettle and have it hot and handy in case you missed your mash temperature and need to get it up to temperature pronto. I've read that the first few minutes of the mash are most crucial, and therefore you want to get your temperature as close to correct as possible. This requires a thermometer that can give you an accurate reading quickly. Similarly, have a bit of cold water on hand in case you overshoot your mash temp. The online calculator below is good at getting your temp within the ballpark, but everyone's equipment is different, so you won't know how best to adjust it's temperature recommendations until you've done a few batches.

2) You may wish to have a blanket to wrap around your mashtun to better hold the temperature for the hour long mash. While I don't think this is as important as getting your mash temperature right within the first couple of minutes, the more you get the details right, the better likely is the final product.

3) I recommend putting the milled grains in your mashtun BEFORE you add your strike water, especially if your tun is made of plastic. The plastic can warp and bend (and at certain very high temps can even leach plastic into the wort). Having the grain in there already to immediately cool the water to the desired temp will reduce those risks.

It's a little bit of a balancing act, but once you practice it a couple of times, you'll have a good idea how to adjust your numbers, and when to start heating your sparge water, etc.


The hops:

The time in minutes referred to in recipes for hops, is always inficating how long that particular hop should be in the boil. So for example:

Hop A: 60 mins
Hob B: 40 mins
Hop C: 10 mins
Hops D: 0 mins

If you are going to boil the wort for an hour then 'HOP A' would go in immediately once the wort starts boiling and stay in the wort until you're done. HOP B would go in 20 minutes later and stay in for another 40 mins. HOP C would go in at 50 mins (10 minutes before the end). HOP D would go in as you're turning off the flame. In this case you could throw the lid on a let those hops sit in there for a few minutes before you start to cool the wort. Leave all the hops in the beer until you transfer it to the primary fermenter in which case you'll do your reasonable best to remove any large hop debris (use a collander, or perhaps your kettle has a screen). Don't be paranoid though, a bit of hops going into the fermenter won't cause any serious harm.

In the case of your recipe above, there's only one hop addition to make, and you'd do it as soon as your wort boils (or after the hot break which is almost immediate on boil) and then continue the boil for 60 minutes.

Last, if you're using an immersion wort chiller, then be surge to submerge it into the boiling wort about 15 minutes before the end of the boil. This will ensure that any bacteria that goes into the beer along with the chiller get killed by being boiled to death for 15 minutes.

Link for water: http://www.brew365.com/mash_sparge_water_calculator.php
 
so using that calculator for your recipe...

you have 8 lbs of grain, and I assume this is a 5 gallon batch?

So... you need:

Total water: 8.41 gallons
Strike Water: 2.66 gallons
Strike water temp: 162.03 F
Sparge water: 5.75 gallons

note: that's what the calculator says. On my equipment I typically have to heat my strike water a few more degrees than what it recommends in order to hit my target temperature. I recommend you try what it recommends with, as I said, a boiled kettle on-hand. Take careful note of how it works out, and if it doesn't get the mashtun to your target temp, then you'll know next time to adjust accordingly.
 
I highly recommend getting beersmith, plug all of the data into Beersmith and it will let you know how much water, what temp, and so on, it is well worth the few bucks that you'll spend on it.

+1. You can do the math yourself but BS2 just makes life easy.
 
Ill say it again, you guys rock, thank u so much Andy that answered alot of questions i had.
 
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