Fermentation stages

[hardwick91]

Hey guys I've just mixed my first ever batch of lager and got it in my hot box for fermenting, the heater I've got is set to 27 degrees as instructed on the lager mix I bought.
Can anyone advise on future temperatures and lengths of time left to ferment please?
Feel like I've thrown myself in the deep end so if anyone can help it'll be much appreciated!
Happy brewing

 

[Dynachrome]

....27 Fahrenheit?

I've never lagered. From what I've read, it should go in the forties Fahrenheit.

...also, I haven't heard of varying the temp.


Please check out the threads at the bottom this page.

 

[hardwick91]

Sorry mate it's in Celsius, and I don't know to e honest I found myself scrolling down a web page telling me after so long I should drop the temp a few degrees at a time until its around 12-15 Celsius?
I'm sure It'll be fine at that 27 for a week or 2!

 

[jethro55]

False. It is lagering.

 

[Matt3989]

I've never lagered... But 27 is way too high for any yeast... For any amount of time... You're going to have some really bad off flavors. It should be a cold box, not a hot box. Probably closer to 8°C depending on the yeast

 

[Matt3989]

But rereading this post it sounds more like he's trolling...

 

[Demus]

27 Celsius is 81 degrees farenheit which is way warm even for an ale yeast. Lagers should start in the low to mid 50's (12-14c) and ferment there until about 75% complete. Some strains then require a "diacetyl rest" to prevent off flavors from diacetyl. This is achieved by warming the beer into the 60's (16-18c) for a few days to complete the fermentation. The step is often not necessary with modern yeasts and quality ingredients, but many brewers still swear by the practice. The beer is then gradually dropped a few degrees per day until just above freezing and "lagered" for several weeks or even months. Where ever you got the advice to ferment a lager at such a warm temperature has no credibility, as this goes against everything I've ever read about lagers...

 

[hardwick91]

Thanks for the advice guys I got the temperatures out of the instruction leaflet that came with the coopers lager mix I bought, it recommended I keep the yeast ideally between 21-27 Celsius but 18-32 would still work, and as I've left it in my outhouse which room temp is around 10 Celsius I thought 27 would've been ok.
I only mixed it about an hour and half ago, could I save it by lowering the temperature now?

 

[jethro55]

But rereading this post it sounds more like he's trolling...

It really does sound that way. This might be a new class of beers. Ales, lagers, and "fill in the blank". Certainly out of the mainstream...

Can you post these Coopers instructions hardwick?

I did surf Coopers Lager - sure enough hardwick is following a Cooper guide....these instructions might be referring to the yeast rehydration temperature, rather than wort temperature.

 

[Dynachrome]

Hey guys I've just mixed my first ever batch of lager and got it in my hot box for fermenting, the heater I've got is set to 27 degrees as instructed on the lager mix I bought.
Can anyone advise on future temperatures and lengths of time left to ferment please?
Feel like I've thrown myself in the deep end so if anyone can help it'll be much appreciated!
Happy brewing

Where did you get your recipe?

Fosters is one of my favorites. If I were going to try a lager, that would be where I started.

Were the other threads of any use?

 

[hardwick91]

Here's the instructions mate....

 

[Dynachrome]

Thanks for the advice guys I got the temperatures out of the instruction leaflet that came with the coopers lager mix I bought, it recommended I keep the yeast ideally between 21-27 Celsius but 18-32 would still work, and as I've left it in my outhouse which room temp is around 10 Celsius I thought 27 would've been ok.
I only mixed it about an hour and half ago, could I save it by lowering the temperature now?

Now I'm laughing, probably a culture gap.

Here in Wisconsin, an outhouse is where people who don't have indoor plumbing go to do their business.

What corner of the globe do you hark from?

Cool it down, it will be fine.

 

[hardwick91]

I just got the lager mix from wilkinsons, and followed instructions from there, never thought of getting the fosters recipe up and trying that.
Suppose ill learn from my mistakes!

 

[hardwick91]

Lol not much room in the kitchen I'm afraid!

But I'm from Wakefield

 

[jethro55]

hardwick91 - it is quite an unusual set of instructions for a lager. They are always known as a cold ferment (50-60 deg F) brew. Thus the stunned reactions. I am stunned, but I learn every day.

 

[Dynachrome]

Wakefield England?

 

[hardwick91]

I didn't know any different to be honest lol just assumed they couldn't be wrong!
Dropped the temperature down now so hopefully all will be well!

 

[hardwick91]

Bloody freezing in other words

 

[Dynachrome]

We were at zero Fahrenheit yesterday. It warmed up nicely today almost up to freezing here.

I've done a Boddington's Bitter clone from a recipe on here - I really like it. I do all-grain.

I should be brewing - not sitting on the 'puter.

We were out at my wife's Christmas party last night. My motivation is terrible today.

 

[hardwick91]

Ouch we're not quite that cold! Was about 8-9 Celsius today I think.

Feels like I've got so much to take in about brewing! Dropped the temp to 20 for the moment be nice to say my first batch was a good one, only time will tell!