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erykmynn

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Currently my system looks a little like this:

2-3 active carboys/buckets (4 in a pinch)
swamp cooler action when necessary (only a few weeks this year, Bay Area)

I often skip secondary or 2ndary in kegs unless dry-hopping

3 kegs on tap, with room for a 4th (keezer)

many spare kegs
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I want to #1-soon) upgrade to be able to do lagers, and #2-someday) have more automated temp control for ales #3-whenever) have some space for cold-conditioning or temp-controlled storage

I've thumbed through what must be a million different solutions here on HBT and elsewhere. My big challenge is prioritizing and figuring "how big" at what temps.

I like the idea of a ~5 cu ft freezer for lager fermentation (and the occasional very cool ale?). I could lager in there or in the serving keezer if necessarily.

I also like the simplicity of having a larger freezer conversion or fridge for ale control. This is sort of my minimal priority, but would be more hands-off than swamp cooling. Would also help the few days it gets a little too cold here. Downside is that even if all ales are in the same ballpark, none are the exact same idea, esp if you like to let them warm up a tad after primary.

I like the idea of either piping cold air off a existing freezer/fridge to a "son of" / "mother of" type box. I suppose you could do individual chambers in the "son of" /"mother of" idiom... has anyone done that, is it overkill? I also thought about individual water bath with electric valves but that doesn't seem very practical.

And then storage. What temp is the best to double-up as storage for kegs and bottles? Does it matter if it's carbed or not yet? Would some storage space be best appreciated at ale temp, lager temp, lagering temp?

Thanks for any advice. I feel blessed that my apartment is ale-friendly most of the year, but because of that I have been lazy or under-prepared for certain situations and need to tap into the knowledge here to map out some brighter future.
 
Kinda hard to get a reading on this, so I'll just speak from my experience.

The issue I'm running into with fermentation is when you have a range of batches on the go at one given time, you need a range of temperatures. I built a fermentation chamber from the guts of an old dorm fridge, a heating pad from Williams Brewing, and one of the ebay temp controllers, but the little cooling unit has a VERY hard time getting the chamber below 50F. So it's great for ales and primary fermentation, but no lagering or cold conditioning.

If I could go back in time and do it over again (and I probably will do this next year, when I have a new brew budget from SWMBO) I'd have just gotten a small upright freezer from Craigslist (which would have cost about the same anyways, by the time I bought all the lumber, insulation, and fixtures) and used that.

Anyways, the upshot is that the "ideal" solution would be to have one area earmarked for primary fermentation, that can be controlled between 55 and 70 degrees, then a lagering fridge for cold crashing, etc. I thought I remember seeing someone convert a side-by-side fridge for this, but can't for the life of me remember where I saw it. I do know that over on Wort-o-matic, Knews Hound built a two chamber fermentation setup, but I genuinely don't know how accurate it is - seems like there's no sort of temperature control in there whatsoever, at least none that I can see, and being able to "set" between top and bottom seems to be guesswork.

Sorry, the above is probably just rambling, and not much help.
 
no problem ubermick, my post was rambling and lacked direction. I'm just looking for any insight. I didn't mention the dorm fridge thing, but good to know what it can handle.

Funny I was just looking at that same Wort-o-matic page. Looks like he uses a thermostat and fan much like the other set-ups.... surprised he can get that lower chamber so cold with what looks like another mini-fridge. I guess they probably vary quite a bit. Actually sounds like his runs constantly to keep up..
 
Yeah, I'd take that with a pinch of salt - like I said, I'm using the guts of a mini fridge to cool a 4' x 2' x 2' box that's insulated and sealed, and it has a hard time getting below 50 - and that takes 12 hours. Although to be fair, I'm only using 3/4" insulation on mine, he's using (I think) twice that.
 
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