Equally Obnoxious Hockey Trash Talk Thread, eh?
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CityOChampBrew
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looked like a cheap slewfoot to me, doubt anything will come of it
slewfoot might not be the best way to describe it actually but it was not any sort of knee on knee contact like they were claiming on tv at 1st
tyzippers
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CityOChampBrew said:
Yeah. I was actually surprised he got the game. I don't think anything will happen. Wasn't there a rule put in place at one point that stated that if a player recieves a major penalty inside the last few minutes if a game, it is an automatic one game suspension? Or am I crazy?
I wish I had cable. Reaching behind him and grabbing it? Wish I would have seen that....
dudius
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And despite the Wings best effort of losing the game last night, they held on to win in overtime. Sadly Dekeyser is out for the playoffs now.
solbes
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Dustin Brown...What a gigantic ****** bag. I stayed silent on the elbow to Pominville's head in the Wild's 3rd to last game. He likely gave him a concussion, JP is still day to day and could miss the entire playoffs. Brown said he was bracing for the check, bull. 2 game suspension by the leauge and no penalty on the play.
Then the very intentional attempted knee on knee and attempted elbow to Jaden Schwartz. Luckily Schwartz missed both of them barely. I have no problem with guys checking or hitting each other, but I have no tolerance for flying elbows or knees. If you're going to go to that extreme, its time to drop the gloves and fight like a man.
http://www.stlouisgametime.com/2013...wn-knee-on-knee-hit-jaden-schwartz/in/4056997
Then the very intentional attempted knee on knee and attempted elbow to Jaden Schwartz. Luckily Schwartz missed both of them barely. I have no problem with guys checking or hitting each other, but I have no tolerance for flying elbows or knees. If you're going to go to that extreme, its time to drop the gloves and fight like a man.
http://www.stlouisgametime.com/2013...wn-knee-on-knee-hit-jaden-schwartz/in/4056997
And pretty much the exact opposite/counter-example to that, was the blues/kings game last night. As I mentioned in another thread, I've never seen a goalie with such a look of sheer horror as I saw on Quick's face last night!
Total nonsense. He does not go around intentionally risking serious injury to other players in a manner contrary to player safety rules. The thing about Brown is that, probably more than any other player I've seen, the guy goes absolutely balls to the wall in virtually everything he does (even at a greater risk of injury to himself), sacrificing himself and his body in what I can only really describe as an extreme work ethic.
That clip in the link you provided actually hurts your case a bit. He was absolutely pulling back from that hit. Momentum was guaranteeing some degree of an impact there, and the only reason Schwartz was "missed" as you claim is because Brown really did pull back on it. Schwartz didn't just magically escape Brown's heat-seeking Atomic Death Elbow™... had he really wanted to lay Schwartz out with it, ALL HE HAD TO DO was let his forward momentum do what it does naturally, and instead just not really react to anything.
Of course, the reason that clip in the link you provided actually hurts your case (only) "a bit", rather than "A LOT", is because it (almost certainly intentionally) doesn't show enough of the lead-up to that hit to instead make it plainly obvious (without REALLY paying attention... which is exactly what it is counting on) that Brown was ACTUALLY trying to take away some of that forward momentum, rather than simply barreling down the ice at full speed keeping said heat-seeking Atomic Death Elbow™ at a full lock on to Schwartz's head... which is the ONLY reason it "missed". If Brown was looking for it to actually connect, it would have been but a simple matter to actually make it happen. It would have happened. But, curiously, it did not happen.
Goofynewfie
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That hit on Eller was brutal, was lots of debate about it but the panel on TSN all think it was a clean hit. I'm on the fence about it, need to see a couple more angles and the lead up to it to make up my mind.
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Hit was clean but brutal. Main points were that it was a shoulder to chest hit on a player with the puck who had his head down. The resulting impact spun him in the air and he landed face down on the ice. It looked horrible, and I can't really blame the ref for assessing a penalty, but it was a legal hit. Eller should be pissed at himself for skating into neutral ice with his head down and at his teammate for throwing him a pass which put him in such a position.
Goofynewfie
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they mentioned that about the pass from his teammate. do you have a link that shows the hit from a good angle?
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For a bit more context, here's Scott Stevens destroying people in the 90s. The way he'd set up his hits (and the results) are similar to what occurred last night. Stevens' hit on Slava Kozlov was textbook and vicious, but legal.
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Goofynewfie
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thanks for the link. when I was watching sportscenter they showed those angles but not in slow motion. their interpretation makes a lot of sense. good,clean hit. I don't think the refs would have assessed a penalty if Eller would have been able to bounce back up and skate away
Goofynewfie
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http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/sp...on-senators-coach-paul-maclean-lars-eller-hit
I had picked the Senators to win in six. after last night's hit, and a lot of comments that are coming out now I think this could turn into the best series of round one
I had picked the Senators to win in six. after last night's hit, and a lot of comments that are coming out now I think this could turn into the best series of round one
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Well, this is kind of odd: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...injury-in-collision-with-eric-gryba?hpt=hp_t2
Gryba is suspended for two games for a hit that was essentially legal. I think this is a bad move on the NHL's part.
Gryba is suspended for two games for a hit that was essentially legal. I think this is a bad move on the NHL's part.
Goofynewfie
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Wow.... Just wow.
I cant wait to hear the explanation for this one
I cant wait to hear the explanation for this one
HopWolf
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They blew it, suicide pass, head down and gets a shoulder planted deep in his chest. He got cut when he cracked the ice, don't want anyone hurt but come on.
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Yeah, that's the thing: this was a legal hit, especially when you break the play down from all angles. So how does the Players Safety Commission justify a suspension? Moreover, how does this affect hits in general from this point forward?
Goofynewfie
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Agreed. you never want to see a player get hurt, but you don't want to take the checking out of the game. I don't watch the All Star game for that reason.
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So the Habs would stop crying.
kman6234
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Isles Win!!!!!
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Ha, ha, suck it Crosby!
You guys think you can squeeze Fleury in under your cap? He was easily your best player last night; an assist and the GWG, even took the spotlight off Sindy's return, amazing talent and confidence just oozes from the "guy".
Goofynewfie
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is anybody watching the World Championships?
Abdelkader 5 minute major and game misconduct. At least the ducks only got one goal. I really don't like the ducks
