Dual Spires Black Lodge Ale

[tommyguner03]

i am thinking about adding coco powder in secondary when the time comes. any ideas on how to go with this? boil the coco powder? bad idea all together?

 

[tre6mafya]

Bottled this last night after 2 weeks in the primary and a week in the secondary. The final partially filled bottle was so good I drank it warm and flat... This could turn out to be a very good beer; more to come.

Pretty easy; only did a 45 minute boil:
Time - Additions
45min - 3lb sorghum, 3lb rice syrup, 1lb D-180 Dark Candi, 8oz Blackstrap Molasses, 5oz Dextrose, .5oz Cascade, .5oz Northern, 8oz maltodextrin, 1tsp gypsum
22min - .25oz Cascade, .25oz Northern
15min - 1tsp irish moss, 0.5tsp Yeast Nutrient
5min - .25oz Cascade, .25oz Northern

OG - 1.056
FG - 1.010
ABV - 5.9
IBU - 35
SRM - 27

What advise can you provide in regards to the taste the sorghum leaves? Can I just use 6lbs of rice syrup instead? what is the best method to get rid or lessin the taste of sorghum?

 

[wolves63]

Still a little sweet but about a week from now it will be awesome after it conditions a little longer. Fantastic lacing for a GF beer.

 

[tommyguner03]

i cant wait till mine is ready!! looks awesome

 

[rlbois1]

What advise can you provide in regards to the taste the sorghum leaves? Can I just use 6lbs of rice syrup instead? what is the best method to get rid or lessin the taste of sorghum?

Some folks advocate adding half of the sorghum at flameout as a way of reducing the twang. You could sub rice syrup for the some or all the sorghum, but the rice syrup is pretty light and doesn't come as close as the sorghum does in mimmicking "real" LME. I also believe some brews are better suited for masking or minimizing the twang. For the Dual Spires, I feel like the "piney" flavor from the Northern Brewer hops along with dark D-180 candi syrup worked well. Also the "all sorghum" rasberry ale recipe I got from Spaced worked very well with the sorghum. Hope this helps.

 

[tre6mafya]

Thanks alot that helps tremendously! I think I'm ready to brew

 

[dinosaur]

I'm getting ready to brew this recipe. What do you use for yeast nutrient? I've emailed the bigger names about their products and the consensus is, "We can't say it's gluten free". I was thinking about buying two packs of yeast and boiling one to feed the other.

 

[igliashon]

No one has ever had a reaction to a beer made with yeast nutrient. Whatever contamination might have made it into the yeast nutrient, the concentration already is so dilute that it would likely be undetectable (i.e., no worse than getting gluten-free grains from a bulk bin at a grocery store), and 0.5 tsp in 3 gallons of water will further dilute that miniscule concentration 4608 times (3 gallons equals 2304 teaspoons, so a half-teaspoon in 3 gallons is 1 part in 4608). Seriously, it is nothing to worry about.

 

[matthawes]

I am celiac, I used White Labs Servomyces. Worked great... Their stuff is up to 2 PPM according to the FAQ. -Matt

 

[tommyguner03]

Bottled this last night after 2 weeks in the primary and a week in the secondary. The final partially filled bottle was so good I drank it warm and flat... This could turn out to be a very good beer; more to come.

Pretty easy; only did a 45 minute boil:
Time - Additions
45min - 3lb sorghum, 3lb rice syrup, 1lb D-180 Dark Candi, 8oz Blackstrap Molasses, 5oz Dextrose, .5oz Cascade, .5oz Northern, 8oz maltodextrin, 1tsp gypsum
22min - .25oz Cascade, .25oz Northern
15min - 1tsp irish moss, 0.5tsp Yeast Nutrient
5min - .25oz Cascade, .25oz Northern

OG - 1.056
FG - 1.010
ABV - 5.9
IBU - 35
SRM - 27

just bottled today .. and man it came out great!!.. thanks again for the recipe

 

[dinosaur]

I just brewed this tonight. I did 8oz of blackstrap by weight (4 and some change by volume) since that's how I dished out everything else. No yeast nutrient, no gypsum. My OG was right on target. The brew smelled delicious and the rich chocolate color looked amazing. I can't wait for this to get in the bottle!

 

[tommyguner03]

what a great recipe!! .. gave this to out to coworkers and friends and they are non gluten free are asking for more!! i did dry hop with citra pellet hops but other than that this turned out great for my first batch!.. will have to do again A.S.A.P. thanks for the recipe

 

[tommyguner03]

Bottled this last night after 2 weeks in the primary and a week in the secondary. The final partially filled bottle was so good I drank it warm and flat... This could turn out to be a very good beer; more to come.

Pretty easy; only did a 45 minute boil:
Time - Additions
45min - 3lb sorghum, 3lb rice syrup, 1lb D-180 Dark Candi, 8oz Blackstrap Molasses, 5oz Dextrose, .5oz Cascade, .5oz Northern, 8oz maltodextrin, 1tsp gypsum
22min - .25oz Cascade, .25oz Northern
15min - 1tsp irish moss, 0.5tsp Yeast Nutrient
5min - .25oz Cascade, .25oz Northern

OG - 1.056
FG - 1.010
ABV - 5.9
IBU - 35
SRM - 27

after reading this i just realized i used 3lb 15 oz (4lbs) of brown rice syrup and i actually weighed the 8oz of blackstrap molasses.. opps.. but still turned out AWESOME!!

 

[tommyguner03]

Awesome beer. Head stays forever and ppl are saying put this on market

 

[tommyguner03]

Awesome beer. Head stays forever and ppl are saying put this on market

Lol I don't remember posting this I was hammered

 

[Osedax]

Ha! Wouldn't be a beer forum without drunk posts. Having 6 or 7 cases of beer in the house at any given time does make you a target for all your friends. My suggestion..... brew more.

 

[matthawes]

I made my version of the Dual Spires Black Lodge, and it was great. I was thinking about doing it again, but I wanted more hops, zest, and something extra... maybe a little 'punch' in my next brew. My idea was to add late hops, and switch out the Northern for Chinook. I've gotten really good input and ideas through this thread - so I am submitting my recipe here and would love to get your input and ideas.

--50min:
1lb Brown Rice Syrup or Molasses
2lb Rice Syrup Solids
1lb D-180 Candi Syrup
.5oz Cascade Hops
.5oz Chinook Hops
--20min:
.25oz Cascade Hops
.25oz Chinook Hops
--10min:
.25oz Cascade Hops
.25oz Chinook Hops
--5min:
1cap Servomyces
--Flameout:
3lb White Sorghum Syrup
.5oz Cascade Hops
.5oz Chinook Hops
Safale US-05
--Dry Hop:
1.5oz Cascade Hops in secondary
1.5oz Chinook Hops in secondary


-Matt

 

[ChasidicCalvinist]

I'm assuming this is for a 5 gallon boil?
I would do 2lbs of the D-180 and definitely NOT 1lb of molasses. Go with 1lb of BRS.
I'll let someone else comment on the hops, I'm not that familiar with those.

 

[run42beer]

I kegged my batch of this recipe last night. SG 1.066, FG 1.022. Hydro sample tasted slight acidic, some initial hops which have way to caramel flavor. Slightly thin mouth feel, very curious to see how this will taste once carbonated.

Thanks for the recipe!

 

[matthawes]

Yes, 5 gallon. Thanks for the input - will definitely do as you suggest.

I'm assuming this is for a 5 gallon boil?
I would do 2lbs of the D-180 and definitely NOT 1lb of molasses. Go with 1lb of BRS.
I'll let someone else comment on the hops, I'm not that familiar with those.

 

[tommyguner03]

ok i re brewed this 5 days ago but i did one thing different i went with rice syrup solids instead of brown rice syrup. my OG was 1.070?? not sure why it came so high maybe i added to much dextrose and didnt realize it. also i just checked on it and its sitting at 1.030 and no krausen!! should i worry? pitch more yeast? i did one packet of safale 05

 

[EvanLouis]

If its any consolation, the last batch I did had a weird reading of 1.1! Additionally, it had no krausen whatsoever and turned out quite tasty if not a little sorghum twangy

 

[mozy]

I just brewed this recipe last sunday.this is my second brew solo. Cant wait to taste some. Thanks again everyone for so much help and info

 

[spaced]

Brewed this recipe twice and already looking forward to doing it again. Such an awesome beer. If you brew this don't change anything! It's perfect as it is.

 

[tommyguner03]

Brewed this recipe twice and already looking forward to doing it again. Such an awesome beer. If you brew this don't change anything! It's perfect as it is.

i cant wait till my second batch is ready... although i did change one thing i used rice solids instead of brown rice syrup. im hoping for no big change in flavor from this

 

[tommyguner03]

Bam!! Here is a pic from my second go around off this batch. And it tastes great! I think the rice solids made the body heavy? More like a porter?.. Still a great recipe!

 

[mozy]

Just had one alittle early. I bottled 10 days ago. Still flat but man did it taste awesome. I followed original recipe. It's a little thin for such a dark beer. Kind of fools you visually. Looking forward to a carbonated one.

 

[Donstuart]

Tried it and it is fermenting as I type. It looked and smelled good! I can hardly wait to try it (too bad it is going to be too late for Fathers day!). 2 weeks primary and a week secondary- then bottling sounds good. Thanks for the recipe! Now I have 3 lbs of sorghum left- thinking about what to try next.

 

[Donstuart]

Cracked my first one open the other day. Looks great, smells great, tastes pretty damn good, but has no head. I think i'll wait another couple of weeks and hopefully it carbonates better. Belgian Candy and Molasses definitely darkened it.

 

[spaced]

Rebrewed this beer for the first time in a while. Still sensational. Couldn't get the rice syrup solids so just used all sorghum. So bloody good.

Thanks again for this recipe.