Does anyone have any info on these pots? JARHILL 96/70 QT Stainless Steel Stock Pots

[billboll]

RadicalEd,

Thanks for the tip! The olive oil worked wonders. It's ironic (not in the Alanis Morrisette sense, but in the REAL sense) that I spent so much time trying to remove the stickers when I had 5 gallons of olive oil less than two feet away!

Like all of you, I'm very excited to find Jarhill stock pots. Once I have a decent amount of experience with mine, I will post my comments about them. Even though I'm a soapmaker, dealing with nothing but lye and oil, I hope my comments will be useful.

 

[Spellman]

Also, the handles rust since they must not be stainless, but not a big deal. The bottom of my 17.5 warped a little from my burner after 3 batches since something burned on it.

Do you have any pictures of the rusted handles?

 

[D_Nyholm]

Do you have any pictures of the rusted handles?

Let me see if I can get some later on today. The pot is stored away atm. From what I remember they were all corroded, but I don't think it was the typical red rust.

 

[D_Nyholm]

Hope this works, trying from the mobile app.

 

[Spellman]

Thanks for sharing the picture! That is certainly intriguing. At least it seems to be only on the outside. Has anyone else experienced this? I wonder if there is anything you could put on to prevent them from rusting or to cover it up.

 

[RadicalEd]

Thanks for the pictures! Which pot size is that? These things are still awfully tempting. I wish I could just get 3 of the same size. Has anyone tried measuring their exact capacity? I have heard of other pots being slightly smaller than advertised.

No problem .

These pics are of the 96 QT pot. I have not measured capacity yet; I am waiting on that until I get a sight gauge installed.

No corrosion yet, but I'll keep an eye on the handles.

I dropped one of the 96 QT pots off at Adventures in Homebrewing (www.homebrewing.org). They are going to make me a custom false bottom for my mash tun (details TBD). That would make it pretty easy for any subsequent folks to get one ordered. I'd contact jason[at]homebrewing.org if you also want one, and tell him that Eddie H sent ya . (I have no vested interest in this. They're just cool folks that run a great business!)

 

[dkmag]

I got a couple of sets of the 70/96 pots a while ago and have now had the chance to brew a few 5 gallon batches in the 70qt pot. I have not seen any rusting on my pots.

I'm in the middle of building out my eHERMS system and will use 2 of the 96qt pots for the HLT and BK and one of the 70qt pots for the MLT.

As for a false bottom in the MLT, I just discovered that the new 20gal & 30gal MegaPot 1.2 pots from Northern Brewer have the same diameters as the 70/96 pots (45 cm & 50 cm) and they are selling false bottoms for them. So, I may get the 20gal false bottom and see if it fits.

One other thing about these pots that has been mentioned, but deserves reiterating, is that you really got to give them a good cleaning before using. They seem have quite a bit of polishing compound still on them and I ended up scrubbing them out 3 times with BKF to get them clean.

 

[saintbodhisatva]

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One other thing about these pots that has been mentioned, but deserves reiterating, is that you really got to give them a good cleaning before using. They seem have quite a bit of polishing compound still on them and I ended up scrubbing them out 3 times with BKF to get them clean.

I take it boiling water in them would not be enough?

 

[RadicalEd]

I used simple dish detergent and hot water with no problem of residues.

 

[dkmag]

I take it boiling water in them would not be enough?

I first washed with liquid soap and hot water and then did a boil with water but found I was getting a grey residue film on the surface of the water. So, I went at it with BKF and after that I had no more problems.

Could have just been a issue with the pots I got. Looks like RadicalEd didn't have any problem after a simple soap and hot water scrub. Maybe start with that and a water boil and see if that works.

 

[ScubaSteve]

These might make better fermenters than kettles....but then again, maybe not if they rust.....

 

[D_Nyholm]

These might make better fermenters than kettles....but then again, maybe not if they rust.....

Why would you say that? What would make them a better fermenter? Just curious.

The handles are the parts that rust. So far after about 8 batches, I have yet to have any problems with the pots. I have recently switched up to the 22.5 gallon for 10 gallon batches as it is difficult to mash a high(er) gravity beer in a 17.5 gallon pot BIAB. Beersmith has called for almost 18 gallons a few times....

 

[Spellman]

In case anyone has noticed, that 3 set is no longer offered. The seller is not planning on putting them back up, but does still have this set: http://www.ebay.com/itm/261262223538, which is a 96/70/49/35 set. I just ordered 3 while I still could, and plan to resell the ones locally that I don't end up using. These still seem to be working well for those that have them? (I really hope so!)

 

[moclamd]

D_Nyholm, When using this for BIAB do you use a steamer basket? if so what basket are you using?

 

[D_Nyholm]

D_Nyholm, When using this for BIAB do you use a steamer basket? if so what basket are you using?

I don't use a steamer basket, just bag straight in the pot...

 

[bigtbrewer]

old post but....looking good so far

 

[digi2k]

I also ordered the Jarhill 96/70/49/35 qt set... The quality on them is decent, but mine had a few minor dings around the top of the pots where the handles hit the pots... no big deal though.

I tested dimpling and silver soldering a coupling into the pot last night... came out GREAT. I hooked up a valve and water tested it, no leaks at all. i was also being a little intentionally rough with the valve attached... the metal on the pot was flexing and the coupling had no give. awesome. so much cheaper than weldless fittings, especially if you're going to install a couple ports. highly suggested.

my question is, how are you guys using your pots? I only bought one set, i was originally planning on using the 12.25g as the HLT, the 24g as my MLT, and the 17.5 as my BK. Now i'm thinking of swapping the BK and MLT, giving me 24g boil capacity, and 17.5 as MLT, which should allow me to do 15gals of a small beer, 10 gallons of a big beer. any suggestions?

 

[bigtbrewer]

I am using the 12.25g as the HLT, the 17.5 as my MLT, and the 24 as my BK

Soldering worked great for me also..I ran a test run of hot water the other day all seems about ready to go

I have only been brewing for about a year 1/2 upgrading from a turkey fryer so I am not one to say...maybe after it all works

 

[Spellman]

I bought 3 sets and use the 17g for everything. I sold the rest to brew club members and friends for dirt cheap prices and actually came out like $50 ahead. Everyone seems happy, I told everyone about the caveats up front, but at the prices no one seemed to care. 24g for the mlt would be way to big for me. The 17g seems to be more than big enough for anything I have put in there. With the wider bases of these you have to be careful with losing efficiency due to a shallow grain bed when fly sparging. For me the 12g would be way too small for the hlt. 24g bk would be hard to do a 5g batch with electric, but if you only do larger give it a go. I made PJ/Kal mixture eherms system and these kettles saved me like $1200 over the boilermakers. So far they have been a great investment and wouldn't hesitate to get them again.

 

[slcdawg]

I've been looking at upgrading my kettle to a bigger size and am seriously considering pulling the trigger on this deal. Jarhill now has a set of 96/70/49 for $107 shipped. Prior to discovering this thread I was debating between the Concord stainless or a cheap but sturdy aluminum pot (debate for another thread). Comparing Jarhill to Concord:

• Jarhill is 18/0 and Concord is 18/8 stainless, which means Concord has some nickel in it to be more anti-corrosive.
• Jarhill has thickness of 0.95 mm and Concord is 1.0 mm.

I did a little research on the types of stainless. I don't think the 18/8 is needed for beer - wort is not that corrosive. I found some health blogs that actually advocated 18/0 over 18/8 because the 18/0 doesn't contain nickel - but could not find a "real" source of info as to whether this is good.

Any reason to purchase the Concord over the Jarhill set? Same price, but one pot versus 3. I figure I could sell the other two pots locally and come out close to even on the deal.

Those of you who have purchased these pots like them? And, weldless fittings work with them?

Appreciate any input.

Cheers!

~slcdawg

 

[Spellman]

For the price I have loved them. Turns out my shallow grain bed/efficiency theory was bunk and due to a bad refractometer. Last batch got a 95%! I would definitely do it again. All of my fittings are weldless and hold up fine. I have not seen any corrosion on mine, and I've been using them since December for about 11 batches and all is well. The 17gal ones work great for 10gal batches and pretty good for 5gal. Boilermakers would be awesome to have, but I don't think they would improve my beer any. With that said I would recommend these over anything less than Blichmann.

 

[slcdawg]

Thanks for the feedback, Spellman. Looks like you have an electric setup with lots of fittings . I'm on propane so just have to make sure the bottom is supported. Pulling the trigger...

For the price I have loved them. Boilermakers would be awesome to have, but I don't think they would improve my beer any. With that said I would recommend these over anything less than Blichmann.

 

[SavoryChef]

I just received my 45 gallon Concord, and its not too bad. I wouldn't say its flimsy at all but not really thick like my others. I don't regret buying it but I haven't brewed with it yet either

I've been looking at upgrading my kettle to a bigger size and am seriously considering pulling the trigger on this deal. Jarhill now has a set of 96/70/49 for $107 shipped. Prior to discovering this thread I was debating between the Concord stainless or a cheap but sturdy aluminum pot (debate for another thread). Comparing Jarhill to Concord:

• Jarhill is 18/0 and Concord is 18/8 stainless, which means Concord has some nickel in it to be more anti-corrosive.
• Jarhill has thickness of 0.95 mm and Concord is 1.0 mm.

I did a little research on the types of stainless. I don't think the 18/8 is needed for beer - wort is not that corrosive. I found some health blogs that actually advocated 18/0 over 18/8 because the 18/0 doesn't contain nickel - but could not find a "real" source of info as to whether this is good.

Any reason to purchase the Concord over the Jarhill set? Same price, but one pot versus 3. I figure I could sell the other two pots locally and come out close to even on the deal.

Those of you who have purchased these pots like them? And, weldless fittings work with them?

Appreciate any input.

Cheers!

~slcdawg

 

[D_Nyholm]

I just received my 45 gallon Concord, and its not too bad. I wouldn't say its flimsy at all but not really thick like my others. I don't regret buying it but I haven't brewed with it yet either

45 gallon?! Damn, what are you brewing? 30 gallon batches?

 

[SavoryChef]

20-25 gallons on occasion. No reason to brew the same house beers all the time, bigger is always better. I do have a few friends that can put some beer away and the occasional one barrel brew day with the brew club

 

[slcdawg]

Just got mine. They were not packaged very well - tons of scratches and dents. The large pot does have a rather large dent along the bottom. I don't care about the scratches but the large dent concerns me.

Aside from that the pots appear functional. Side construction seems sturdy enough. Bottom is flexy - definitely want to make sure its well supported.

 

[slcdawg]

Curious - did anyone else's pots arrived with deep scratches on the inside? I expected some minor scratching but two of my pots have scratches that appear pretty deep and black in color. Is this something BKF will clean up and I shouldn't worry about it? Seller says that is normal with their manufacturing process. Looks like a shipping (packaging issue) to me.

My large pot has a large dent at the base - around where the bottom is attached. I'm mostly concerned about that one as I was planning on selling the large pot.

 

[Mirilis]

i bought them and want to do dimpling and soldering but ive never done it before and dont want to F it up. I read the tutorial on here but im still scared to go out and try it.

Can you guys talk a little bit about your experience soldering this set of kettles?

 

[bigtbrewer]

I cant speak for for any other pots But I had no problem soldering the Jarhills and this was the first time for me.

FYI, I did not dimple any fittings mine were weld fittings and brewhardware.com electrical solder kits.

I did use Greenlee knockout tools for large holes. Drilling with step bits were no problem.

I even soldered some nuts right to the pot and it worked great!
After solder nut pic not cleaned yet..

 

[TastyAdventure]

Just bought a set...


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