Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[mongcong]

jtkratzer - thanks. that's what I thought. The OP mentions a 10 day chill, which seemed to me a cold crash for clarity, rather than a shortened cold condition for flavour. Wish me luck.

 

[shadows69]

I would have it bottled for 14 days upstairs at 70 might be carbed enough then. 63 is to low. Room temp is what you want when carbing.

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[shadows69]

On the 13 day do a cold crash for 24 hours then bottle and keep at room temp for 14 days. Thats rushing it but might work.

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[birvine]

In October I modified the recipe to be Cream of Three Crops - Amarillo. In the mash I put in a bit of C70 and C120, half a pound of honey and hopped only with Amarillo.

Really, really tasty.

B

 

[royal1911]

I want to brew a 2 gallon batch (all grain with a mr beer kit) of this tomorrow. I've divided the original recipe by 5.75 and came up with this:

2lbs 2-row
.5 lbs Corn
.2 lbs Rice
.2 oz Willamette
and . 2 oz Crystal.

Does this sound ok?

I'm planning on a biab that I can do on my stovetop and this looks like a good start.

 

[birvine]

I want to brew a 2 gallon batch (all grain with a mr beer kit) of this tomorrow. I've divided the original recipe by 5.75 and came up with this:

2lbs 2-row
.5 lbs Corn
.2 lbs Rice
.2 oz Willamette
and . 2 oz Crystal.

Does this sound ok?

I'm planning on a biab that I can do on my stovetop and this looks like a good start.

I don't have the original numbers in front of me, but I did something similar a while back but I think I had more like equal parts rice and cornmeal.

Really, it is such a flexible recipe that I think anything within reason would work.

What you might try is putting the data into Brewtarget and see what it gives you. I'd do it but I have to head out to an appointment and should already be gone!

B

 

[mavtitle]

It really is a flexible recipe, and I think your numbers are fine. I'd up the hops to 1/4 oz, but that's only because I wanted a little more when I did mine.

Start with the base recipe, and then try something a bit different. I've only brewed the original recipe once, but I've brewed variants of it several times, and each one has been tasty. It's a fun journey, experimenting for the taste buds, and you can't really go wrong.

 

[royal1911]

It really is a flexible recipe, and I think your numbers are fine. I'd up the hops to 1/4 oz, but that's only because I wanted a little more when I did mine.

Start with the base recipe, and then try something a bit different. I've only brewed the original recipe once, but I've brewed variants of it several times, and each one has been tasty. It's a fun journey, experimenting for the taste buds, and you can't really go wrong.

Thanks for the advice. I will up the hops to 1/4 and see how it is. I ordered 1 lb of corn from northern brewer so I can use the other 1/2 lb on the next batch and tweak it if I need to.

 

[royal1911]

I don't have the original numbers in front of me, but I did something similar a while back but I think I had more like equal parts rice and cornmeal.

Really, it is such a flexible recipe that I think anything within reason would work.

What you might try is putting the data into Brewtarget and see what it gives you. I'd do it but I have to head out to an appointment and should already be gone!

B

Did you use Cornmeal from the grocery store?

 

[Vernacular]

It's always good to know we've reached a new beer drinking population.

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I am taking the plunge into all grain and Cream of Three Crops is up first. Sounds great to me.

OK.... So who's permission do I need to use this beer drinking horse on my labels? I gotta have it.
CHEERS

 

[birvine]

Did you use Cornmeal from the grocery store?

Yes. I just put it in a pot on the stove with plenty of water (then subtracted that water from the final recipe) and slow-cooked it for about half an hour. Be warned, though - you HAVE to keep stirring it otherwise it will stick to the bottom of the pot and burn.

You can do the same with the rice, or, use instant rice.

B

 

[royal1911]

Yes. I just put it in a pot on the stove with plenty of water (then subtracted that water from the final recipe) and slow-cooked it for about half an hour. Be warned, though - you HAVE to keep stirring it otherwise it will stick to the bottom of the pot and burn.

You can do the same with the rice, or, use instant rice.

B

That's great, thanks for the tip. I will try this next time I brew it!

 

[Dhack61]

Did you use Cornmeal from the grocery store?

I used P.A.N. from the store its precooked corn meal. You can find it in the Mexican section. Also use instant Rice. Both Work great. efficiency was about 85%. Last batch I made subbed in 8oz of table sugar took out 12oz of corn. Racking to secondary tomorrow. Hope its as good as the first batch.

 

[Nemleu]

Many thanks for the recipe BierMunche. I bottled conditioned for 4-weeks, and I think this is a very pleasant sociable beer. I have friends that don’t care for dark beers, or IPA’s, and I wouldn’t share one of my over hopped beers with them. I put this one to the test, shared it, and they came back for more. (Naturally I cut them off, lol)
The brew club I belong to wants me to share this at our upcoming dinner of 7 courses of various beers, 5 courses of foods paired to match the beers.

I will definitely keep this one in stock, and plan on brewing batch #2 this weekend.

 

[bricks]

I just bought the ingredients to do a five gallon batch of this today. My grain bill was 6 lbs. of two row, 2 lbs. of flaked maize, and 1 lb. of flaked rice. Using one ounce of Willamette, and Safale US05 yeast.

I will attempt this tomorrow as my first AG brewing experience. Hope all goes well!

 

[Cacaman]

I'm brewing this right now, and as I got the OG sample, the color is looking sort of like lemonade. My 5 gallon grain bill was:

6lb 2-row
2lb flaked corn
1lb flaked rice

Do you all think it'll stay this color? Doesn't seem so yellow to me

 

[birvine]

My guess is that corn in suspension is giving it the yellow colour. Mine was like that and over time when the corn fell out of suspension it cleared nicely and all as good.

B

 

[Cacaman]

My guess is that corn in suspension is giving it the yellow colour. Mine was like that and over time when the corn fell out of suspension it cleared nicely and all as good.

B

I spent about a whole hour last night browsing this thread and saw peoples pictures, seems similar to mine. I checked beersmith, and i had the same SRM as the original recipe. Sounds like everything will turn out ok. Thanks for the clarification birvine!

 

[Chuginator]

If you dry-hopped this with an ounce of Tettnanger, do you think it would approximate a Helles?

 

[extraduty77]

I've been reading this forum for a while now and they talk about adding gelatin to clear it up. Do you all just add it or do you boil it first? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

 

[Brewskii]

I've been reading this forum for a while now and they talk about adding gelatin to clear it up. Do you all just add it or do you boil it first? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f13/gelatin-bottling-280978/

It's in there somwheres...

 

[extraduty77]

Thank you ....

 

[msa8967]

Do not boil the gelatin. Get the beer cold either in your bucket, carboy of keg. Heat 1-2 cups of water to around 160 F and add the gelatin. Stir and remove from heat. Let this cool and then add to your beer. If you boil the gelatin then it will turn solid when placed in your beer. My temp of 160 F is an approximation since I am in another state than where my brewing notes are.

 

[taintedplay]

can i sub something else for flaked corn? something cheaper ideally (and easier to obtain)

 

[DavesNotHere]

Hello all. I've talked to some people who brewed this, and they all love it (mainly because SWMBO loves it). I don't have any special occasion for brewing this, except it's winter, and not raining. This will be my 4th AG brew, and from what it sounds like, will definitely be a staple in my collection.

Anyway... I took BM's original recipe, plugged it into BeerSmith, and scaled it down to 5.5. Then I rounded the numbers up to whole numbers.. I added 8oz (1/2#) table sugar just to boost the OG a bit. It went from 1.040 to 1.045. Not sure why I care, but the BJCP guidelines on the bottom made me want to be in all the green areas...

Mashed 90min @ 151. Target was 152, but I won't complain. I'm using 10g Rubbermaid drink dispensers for HLT and MT. They usually hold the temps well, and don't seem to lose too much heat. However, it's 41*F outside, so I decided to wrap the MT in three blankets. So far, it's going between 150.8 and 151.2. I also used about 3/4 tbsp of 5.2 ph stabilizer in the MT, and will use another tbsp in the HLT. Other than that, I'm very fortunate to live in an area with damn near perfect water for most brewing.

When it's all done, I'll go back and adjust the eff./pre-boil OG, and post boil og/amt numbers.

Style: Cream Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0) 

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 7.05 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.24 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal   
Bottling Volume: 5.10 gal
Estimated OG: 1.045 SG
Estimated Color: 2.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 17.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 79.2 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt	Name                                     Type	#	%/IBU         
6 lbs	Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)           Grain	1	66.7 %        
2 lbs	Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM)                   Grain	2	22.2 %        
8.0 oz	Minute Rice (1.0 SRM)                    Grain	3	5.6 %         
8.0 oz	Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM)         Sugar	4	5.6 %         
0.50 oz	Liberty [4.30 %] - Boil 60.0 min         Hop	5	7.6 IBUs      
0.50 oz	Willamette [5.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min      Hop	6	9.7 IBUs      
1 tab	Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)        Fining	7	-             
1.0 pkg	Cream Ale Yeast Blend (White Labs #WLP08 Yeast	8	-             


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 9 lbs
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Name	Description                             Step Temperat Step Time     
Mash In	Add 12.75 qt of water at 166.6 F        152.0 F       90 min        

Sparge: Fly sparge with 5.63 gal water at 168.0 F

 

[DavesNotHere]

Well, I started the mash, and forgot to start a timer (too busy reading forums). I realized it about 15-20 minutes later...and just decided to set the timer for 60m. When the time was up, started the vorlauf and fly sparge... Stuck. Like... stuck. It's a problem i've had 2 times before. I'm using the 9" domed false bottom from MoreBeer. The 12" is out of stock. I've talked to the guys in the store, and they're willing to let me switch it out (and pay the difference) when the 12" is back in stock. I'm guessing that the extra 1.5" on the sides is allowing some of the grain to sneak under the dome...

To fix it, I had to dump everything from the MT into the brew kettle... remove the false bottom, rinse it off, swirl some hot water in the bottom to clean it out, replace, and then slowly dump the grains and water back inside the MT. Talk about making a long day longer...

Either way... it ended up working out, and i'm fly sparging now... been going for about 15 minutes... 45 to go. This already looks promising...

 

[DavesNotHere]

****. This is turning into the Murphy's Law brew day. SWMBO just turned into SWMBS (the is stands for slapped). The wife left the garage door open...the dog went into the garage, and knocked the tube from the MT to the brew kettle out... That little ****er (80 lbs of little ****er) climbed up on to the bench (2ft high) and tried to drink the sweet wort... found it about 10 minutes later...so at a sparge rate of 1gal/10 minutes (6g/hour), I lost about 1gal to the dog and floor.... FML. The dog was licking the floor, and not the tube, and the kettle was covered...so... don't think it was contaminated... But at 30 minutes into the sparge, that's still a fairly high gravity wort coming out.

I think I can take a gravity reading near the end of the sparge, and add more table sugar as needed. I also have a 6lb bag of LME in the garage that has been there for about 2 months...

 

[DavesNotHere]

And while trying to make a starter for this, my Erlenmeyer flask cracked when I put it in the ice water bath. I took it to the LHBS and showed them the cracks along with the store printed directions stating to boil the wort in the flask, and then put it in a cold water bath. They replaced the flask and DME, no problem. I also picked up a package of Safale US-05... figured since everything else went wrong...might as well use a cheaper yeast... shouldn't make a difference in this recipe anyway...

But I got approx 5 gal into the carboy, and have an OG of 1.034 after losing a gallon of wort. I only added the original 8oz of sugar... Oh well. It's not gonna last long anyway... now I just have a reason to do this over...correctly.

 

[birvine]

can i sub something else for flaked corn? something cheaper ideally (and easier to obtain)

Yes. I mentioned in an earlier post that I used cornmeal. Just had to boil it first.

B

 

[Woodbury419]

And while trying to make a starter for this, my Erlenmeyer flask cracked when I put it in the ice water bath. I took it to the LHBS and showed them the cracks along with the store printed directions stating to boil the wort in the flask, and then put it in a cold water bath. They replaced the flask and DME, no problem. I also picked up a package of Safale US-05... figured since everything else went wrong...might as well use a cheaper yeast... shouldn't make a difference in this recipe anyway...

But I got approx 5 gal into the carboy, and have an OG of 1.034 after losing a gallon of wort. I only added the original 8oz of sugar... Oh well. It's not gonna last long anyway... now I just have a reason to do this over...correctly.

Sounds like a brew session from h-e double hockey sticks. At least you got a batch out of all the chaos. You should totally dub it dog-snatched cream ale!! Im sure it'll be a great beer bro.