Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[bovineblitz]

I used the same 2 row count as the original recipe, but 1/2 the flakes corn, and 1 pound of minute rice.

Starter was: 2/3 cup of DME w 4 cups of water w/ 1056 American Ale WYeast. I shook this up for a long time and got a real strong fermentation for the first 4-5 days. I'm not sure if I'm not getting enough O2. I'm thinking about getting a pump to get better O2. Any ideas on why this stopped at 1.016 and not 1.005?

I thought about this some more. Adjuncts don't have a lot in the way of nutrients that yeast need. In an all-malt wort you typically don't need to add nutrient, but when a significant portion isn't malted you could run into metabolic issues for the yeast. If they don't have enough nutrients and trace minerals to do the job, they'll stop early because they simply are no longer to eat any more sugar. There's nothing you can really do at this point, but in the future when using adjuncts you should give them some extra nutrients.

That could be the problem.

 

[Mudflap]

Thanks diatonic! I will do just that on the sparge, that is, just sparge til I get my preboil and not worry about over sparging. On the adjuncts, I believe just to be safe since I don't have time to experiment before the wedding, I'm going to drop half a pound off of the corn bill and pick up a half pound on the rice. I want this really clean for folks. Will report back in about 3 weeks with my results!

 

[BeerMe82]

Is there any reason I couldn't do this in a 5.5 gal batch using bags? I could sparge a bit using a strainer over the kettle. Or just agitate the bags a bit. That would probably get all the goodies out before the boil. Any thoughts?

 

[pola0502ds]

I racked to a keg after a couple days from adding gelatin. Extremely clear but i think I have chill haze. What did i do wrong to cause the chill haze? I didn't do a mash out, would that have prevented it?

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Update, i went on vacation this past weekend for 4 days and when I returned and poured a glass of this wonderful beer it was very clear. Just a hint of a haze. I also found that this beer has a lot more flavor now.

So I brewed on July 4th, transferred to secondary with gelatin on July 16th, transferred to keg on July 18th and started drinking on the 20th. A little time line for you guys that plan to brew this.

This beer is freaking awesome and is a perfect beer for those people who don't know what a craft beer is and typically like bud light. But it has more flavor.

This will be a beer that I ALWAYS have on tap. I just need to figure out what I can do to make the mashing process easier. I got 3 stuck mashes before on my RIMS system before I just decided to do a single infusion with no recirc.

 

[Mudflap]

Alright, brewed it up on sat. Man, between the 90min mash, 90min boil, and dealing with 100deg Memphis temps outside and chilling with almost 90deg groundwater made for one exhausting brew day. I had to go immersion pre-chiller with ice bucket to therminator and still had to use a swamp cooler before pitching! haha. Whew, what a day!

 

[RDatsun]

On Hops I only could get Willamete AA 4.7. No Crystal went with Liberty 4.5 AA I should be fine with this hop schedule , Dont have brewing hardware help would be appreciated Thanks!

 

[diatonic]

I was in a hurry to get this ready for a BBQ this weekend. I primaried it for 12 days, then filtered warm with a 1 micron filter. Chilled & force carbed for 2 days. Despite having a lot of chill haze, it's a really enjoyable beer. I'll just get red party cups instead of clear. Thanks again for the great recipe!

 

[diatonic]

One more pic. This beer is fantastic!

 

[pola0502ds]

After i kegged and startee to drink, one week later it was and still is crystal clear. This is going to become a house beer for me

 

[pola0502ds]

Well, i put this beer in a contest. It took first place in its catagory! This beer didnt turn out like the recipe says but it sure is damn good. Just thought i would mention that. Thanks to the person who started this thread.

 

[lukem5]

I just brewed a 5g batch of this and used 2 oz of amarillo on this batch. I think I may have added too many hops for the beer style, as I forgot to half the recipe when it came to hops...

My propane ran out after about an hour of boiling, but I did get a 90 min mash in.

OG was 1.042

I think my efficiency was up to par.

I also added a half lb of carapils to this recipe.

I also am using wlp029 I heard this stuff gives a great finish if kept low fermenting

I will let yall know how it turns out, the airlock is bubbling a little now and it smells gooooood. I think this will turn out alright, its my first all grain and from the reviews it seems like you can't go wrong with this recipe!

Although the attentuation is a problem I should have forseen, I did not add yeast nutrient, so well see if she goes down or not.

 

[kapbrew13]

Brewed yesterday with minute rice. Used Wlp862 Cry havoc ale/lager yeast. Will try ale fermentation temps this time around. Let's see how this turns out.

 

[pola0502ds]

I just brewed a 5g batch of this and used 2 oz of amarillo on this batch. I think I may have added too many hops for the beer style, as I forgot to half the recipe when it came to hops...

My propane ran out after about an hour of boiling, but I did get a 90 min mash in.

OG was 1.042

I think my efficiency was up to par.

I also added a half lb of carapils to this recipe.

I also am using wlp029 I heard this stuff gives a great finish if kept low fermenting

I will let yall know how it turns out, the airlock is bubbling a little now and it smells gooooood. I think this will turn out alright, its my first all grain and from the reviews it seems like you can't go wrong with this recipe!

Although the attentuation is a problem I should have forseen, I did not add yeast nutrient, so well see if she goes down or not.

I wouldnt worry about the problem you had. I had so many problems with brewing this beer and it still turned out wonderful.. I had 3 stuck mashes. My plan was to recirc with a RIMS tube and after the 3rd time I said the heck with it and just did a normal infusion. I had other minor issues too. Beer wants to be beer, it will turn out fine. As long as you have good sanitation methods.

 

[Hobnob]

I just got my ingredients to brew this recipe from AHS. I've been wanting to try this one -- can't wait!

 

[sacrifice]

Have nothing to do this afternoon and just filled my propane tanks, so am going to give this recipe a try. I also have a pack of Wyeast 1338 - European Ale - yeast hanging around with nothing to do, so I am thinking about using it in the recipe. Only other difference is I am using half Belgian Pilsner and half 2-row.

 

[Joshaw50]

Looks Good

 

[rodisian]

Just brewed up a 3gallon BIAB batch, and slightly upped the rice per some comments. Can't wait to see how it turns out - this is the first batch that both myself and SWMBO are looking forward to!

Thanks BierMuncher

 

[drummerguysteve]

I had a great batch of this yesterday at a local homebrew fest (beerstock). It was a big hit with a BMC buddy that was with us.

 

[pola0502ds]

What is swmbo?

 

[Mknox4354]

What is swmbo?

She who must be obeyed

 

[JimTheHick]

Sultry Wench Making Beer Obediently. Or something like that....

 

[Richbrew]

Thanks DRUMMERGUYSTEVE! That was my version, using S-33, and Williamette and Cascade hops. It took 2nd place at Beerstock 5060.

 

[lukem5]

Sultry Wench Making Beer Obediently. Or something like that....

HAHHAHA good one, yeah thats what swmbo should mean

This stuff tastes great after a week in primary, I put too many amarillo hops in it though, still too sweet to tell just how good it is, but its gonna be good.

I really want to try this with even MORE rice as some others have said, maybe as much as half the recipe?

I live in hawaii so barley is expensive/not fresh. But the rice flows cheap, plentiful and fresh, and so I made this recipe beginning my journey of finding a good/even moderate quality rice beer.

Any suggestions for additions as far as rice dominated beers go? I was thinking some 6 row to up the proteins and ofc carapils for more body/head retention that rice will severly lack. I am sure you can make a good rice beer but it will need just the right ingredients, and im sure I wont be able to exceed 50% rice... but maybe some1 else already has done this with good results?

 

[brewjunky]

I didn't follow this exact recipe but its close. I used some of jamils recipe and some of this one. I used liberty hops should have around 16 IBU's used 1.2 ounces for bittering then .34 ounces at 1 min. My grain bill was 3 crops maybe 4. I used 3.75 lbs of pilsner mal and 3.75 lbs of 2-row. I used 1.69 lbs of rice and 1 lb of corn. Also added .75lbs of table sugar to dry it up a bit. I'm going to use safale 05 for yeast.

I'll let everyone know how it turns out.

 

[JRems]

I just brewed this recipe, it's chilling now waiting to go into the fermenter.
After reading many pages of this thread it looks like very few brew the exact recipe so I changed it up a bit too, mostly because it was what I had on hand. I'm new to AG but I think I got good efficiency
2 row. - 6lb
instant rice. -28oz(1 box)
instant grits. -1.5lb(1 carton)
torrified wheat -4oz

czech saaz 3% -1oz
willamette 4.7% -.5oz

I did a 60 min mash at 152 but added 2 tsp of amalaze enzyme
after boil ended up with 5.25 gal at 1.045
I'm going to pitch a packet of notty because it's what I have on hand
it smells good! I'll let you know how it turns out!

 

[cbdeacon]

What I don't understand, after brewing 4 batches of this wonderful stuff, following Biermuncher's recipe to the letter, is why everyone insists on not following the recipe.
Just kidding...I won't leave well enough alone, either...

 

[Mudflap]

What I don't understand, after brewing 4 batches of this wonderful stuff, following Biermuncher's recipe to the letter, is why everyone insists on not following the recipe.
Just kidding...I won't leave well enough alone, either...

haha. I normally always follow the op recipe first before I start to tweak if so compelled to. The only reason I did not in this case was because I was making it for my sis' wedding reception and was a little concerned about too much corny-ness that several folks were posting so I backed off a bit on the corn and upped the rice to compensate. Its only a few days in the kegs now but I can't even pick up any corn yet. Will post back after it conditions a while before giving any judgement.

 

[bricks]

Just now getting back in to home brewing after a 15 year layoff, and found this recipe. Since I am not set up yet to attempt all grain brewing, I thought I might try to do an extract version of this. If I used 4 pounds of light liquid malt extract and 2 pounds of rice syrup solids for a 5 gallon batch do you think it would turn out anywhere near this all grain version?

Thanks.

Bob

 

[pola0502ds]

Can someone help me here?

This beer and another one I have has some issues. 4-5 days ago i was drinking both beers and they tasted amazing! But the very next day and up until this point, a lot of the flavor and aroma is gone.

-They are not over carbed
-They are in kegs at 12 PSI
-I brewed both on July 4th
-Primary to secondary (with gelatin) to keg

Can anyone tell me whats going on? Is this oxidation?

It seems like this cream ale got better with age and then after a certain point it lost it's flavor. Something has to be wrong because it can't just naturally lose flavor that quick.

 

[edmanster]

Just now getting back in to home brewing after a 15 year layoff, and found this recipe. Since I am not set up yet to attempt all grain brewing, I thought I might try to do an extract version of this. If I used 4 pounds of light liquid malt extract and 2 pounds of rice syrup solids for a 5 gallon batch do you think it would turn out anywhere near this all grain version?

Thanks.

Bob

i would consider maybe steeping 1# flaked maze for the overall effect of being a cream ale
Edit: keep with the same hop schedule and it should turn out good.. you could go a quarter oz more and not be too unbalanced wich you might want to do being an extract batch