Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[nyer]

I'm doing the 11.5 gallon batch this week. I have a bag of rice hulls but have never used them before. How much should I use for this recipe?

 

[bendavanza]

I did a noble hop version using lots of saaz and a bit of other hops (were left over from something else). Very nice! I upped the grain bill for an "imperial" version. I have it posted here: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f62/cream-saaz-175167/

I was thinking of trying a noble hopped PM version of this brew. What do you guys think:

Fermentables
2lbs Briess Golden Light DME
2lbs Pale Two-Row malt
2lbs Flaked Corn
.5lb Minute Rice

Hops
1oz Saaz (60 min)
1oz Saaz (30 min)
1oz Saaz (15min)
1oz Hallertau (5 min)

Nottingham Yeast

 

[eastendershomebrew]

I finally tasted this beer and it was a bit lighter than i thought. also there was a bit of a skunky finish to it. not sure what i did wrong, first all grain though. any ideas.

 

[patrck17]

Hmms. How confident are you that it was an authentic skunky taste? I am not a beer expert but my spider senses suspect you are picking up BMC flavors due to the adjunct. But since you know many BMC beers ar skunky you are putting the two together. This is just a guess though.

Is there any chance that you would have any skunkification in this brew?

 

[HoppyMaltPoet]

Just wanted to give a thank you for this recipe. I tend to brew darker beers that mine and my wife's family don't appreciate too much (at least not all of them). My wife's family are all Bud Light or Michelob light dinkers. My family are typically Corona drinkers. I brewed this for my son's first birthday and also had Heineken (both families like Heineken) and only one Heineken went and a full corny keg of this beer was drank in full. The only complaint I got was that it wasn't low enough in calories. My sister's fiancee went so far as to say he liked it better then Bud Light (which is all he drinks). So just wanted to say thanks for a great recipe. This was a hit.

 

[neovox]

I just tapped my keg of this. I can't believe this is an ale. Came out great. I can see why the BMC crowd likes it, but this should be a homebrewer favorite too. I split the batch 2.5 gallons as is, and 2.5 kegged with lime. Another BierMuncher epic recipe.:rockin:

 

[Daddymem]

BierMuncher should put out a recipe book.

 

[Yambor44]

BM,

Brewing this again right now, 5 gallon batch. I cut back some on the corn, how much sugar should I add to the boil?

2 row 7 pounds
Flaked Maize 1.5 pounds
Instant Rice 14 ounces

8 gallons pre-boil

 

[patrck17]

Yambor,

What is the goal of adding the sugar? It looks like the recipe you have would be fine for a 5gal batch. Does it make up for the lack of corn? When this one is ready to drink you'll have to trade me one for a centennial blonde, I'd like to try the cream ale.

 

[Yambor44]

Yambor,

What is the goal of adding the sugar? It looks like the recipe you have would be fine for a 5gal batch. Does it make up for the lack of corn? When this one is ready to drink you'll have to trade me one for a centennial blonde, I'd like to try the cream ale.

Somewhere prior BM mentioned cutting back 50% on the corn and adding table sugar for a crisper product. T this point, BT Pro has my ABV at 3.59% at 75% efficiency. Maybe I will be higher due to the 90 minute mash though.

 

[Yambor44]

Boiling away........

 

[patrck17]

Awsomeness.

 

[Yambor44]

Came in at 1.045 without any sugar.

 

[patrck17]

Gravity looks good. I bet itle still come out crisp especially with the 90 minute mash. Did you use the recipe hop schedule and yeast?

 

[Yambor44]

Gravity looks good. I bet itle still come out crisp especially with the 90 minute mash. Did you use the recipe hop schedule and yeast?

Yes.

My Willamette was only 4.6% so I used .5 oz for 60 and my Crystal was 3.3% so I used .75 for 60. My IBU's were close to his original at 14.6 or 14.9 if memory serves me correct.

US-05 for the yeast. According to BTP my efficiency was 91% .

I usually batch sparged but my efficiency hasn't been consistent on the new setup so I fly sparged this time. May do that more often!

 

[WildGingerBrewing]

I brewed this two weeks ago for the first time. Made a couple changes to the hops due to LHBS being out of Crystal and added a hop at 30 min as I am kind of a hop head and it had been in my freezer for about 8 months (I figured it was time to use it!):

.75 oz Liberty @ 60 min
.75 oz Willamette @ 60 min
1 oz Brewers Gold @ 30 min
.25 oz Willamette @ 5 min
.25 Liberty @ 5 min

OG was 1.046 and FG is 1.010. I got 72% effeciency. I started cold crashing it a couple of days ago and plan to bottle it this weekend. The samples were really light and clean. I think this will be a good beer. We'll see if my Miller Lite crowd approves!

 

[patrck17]

Nice Jason. I am curious about your Maris Otter/Cascade SMaSH. Not to derail the thread I will just ask this: have you made it before and how does it taste?

Yambor, how confident are you in your volume and that your sample was well mixed? I didn't run any numbers but when I saw you used 7lbs of two row I was thinking it was high. Original recipe called for 12 for a 10 gallon batch so even backing off the corn 1/2lb I figured your OG was right around where it should be. Either way better to be on the high side than the low side I say.

 

[WildGingerBrewing]

Patrick, I bottled the SMaSH a little over a week ago. the sample while bottling was more bitter than I thought it would be but I think it will mellow out with time. I am going to try one this weekend becasue I just can't wait any more! ha It should be relatively carbonated but probably not completely ready. I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

[Yambor44]

Patrick,

Pulled my sample after recirculating the wort thru my HERMS coil for 30 minutes to chill.

 

[GoNova]

LHBS can't get Crystal hops. Is there a really good substitute or should I just delay until my next web order? Thanks guys.

 

[wcarter1227]

LHBS can't get Crystal hops. Is there a really good substitute or should I just delay until my next web order? Thanks guys.

any low aa hop will do, i just brewed up a batch with saaz and williamette and it turned out mighty fine

 

[jfr1111]

My LHBS wants almost 3 $ a pound for flaked corn... I know it might sound crazy, but can you just use bulk no-brand corn flakes (no additives) ? We're already using minute maid rice after all...

I also saw that someone almost got flaked rye by accident, wich got me thinking of dropping the corn altoghter and replacing it with rye for that spicy crisp taste.

 

[Pappers_]

My LHBS wants almost 3 $ a pound for flaked corn... I know it might sound crazy, but can you just use bulk no-brand corn flakes (no additives) ? We're already using minute maid rice after all...

I also saw that someone almost got flaked rye by accident, wich got me thinking of dropping the corn altoghter and replacing it with rye for that spicy crisp taste.

I think grits are what you are looking for, not cornflakes breakfast cereal. Because I don't really enjoy the corn flavor, when I make a light hybrid beer like this, I leave the corn out and use a little more rice.

 

[jfr1111]

More rice it'll be then

 

[neovox]

I did the original recipe and it came out great, but next time I do this brew I'll definitely decrease the corn and increase the rice to minimize the corn flavor. I couldn't get crystal either so I substituted Hallertauer, and that worked out really well.

 

[Pappers_]

I did the original recipe and it came out great, but next time I do this brew I'll definitely decrease the corn and increase the rice to minimize the corn flavor. I couldn't get crystal either so I substituted Hallertauer, and that worked out really well.

I too like Hallertauer in the light hybrid ales I brew.

 

[mhermetz]

Yeah just kegged my second attempt at this beer.

my 3rd will not have any Corn in it. I can't stand it. I even lowered the amount to a half pound. I must have never drank a beer with corn in it because that beer is like drinking corn of the cob.

 

[saltydawg]

my 3rd will not have any Corn in it. I can't stand it. I even lowered the amount to a half pound. I must have never drank a beer with corn in it because that beer is like drinking corn of the cob.​

That's what my wife says too. Too much corn for her... this is after I decreased the corn by half. She does have a very good palate, so I'm going to eliminate the corn and boost the hops a little.

 

[wcarter1227]

+1 on boosting the hops. the last 2 times i brewed this i boosted the ibu to 26. it came out mighty fine

 

[WildGingerBrewing]

+1 on adding hops. I had 1 oz of Brewers Gold in my fridge that had been there for a few months and so I decided to throw it in. 9.7% AA at 30 min. Turned out a little more bitter than I would have liked, based on the style, but it is great.