Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[fastengine]

Starting a batch of this today with Pilsner malt and noble hops.
Going for the true American Lager/Pilsner flavor. I will also secondary with amylase and gelatin to really clear it up.

 

[msa8967]

Starting a batch of this today with Pilsner malt and noble hops.
Going for the true American Lager/Pilsner flavor. I will also secondary with amylase and gelatin to really clear it up.

Which hops are you gong to use for bittering and for aroma? The idea of using noble hops interests me.

 

[fastengine]

Which hops are you gong to use for bittering and for aroma? The idea of using noble hops interests me.

90 minute boil
4 AA Saaz For 60 min.
2 AA Halertau 15 min
.5 oz Halertau @ flameout.
6 Gallon batch

 

[Helly]

Checked mine yesterday and drank the hydro sample. Going to be a very nice beer. Down to about 1.004 from 1.044. I'm excited to get it on tap. There's a local homebrew contest coming up and you can enter more than one so I may put this one in and see what they say.

 

[TrustyOlJohnson]

Looks delicious. Do you get some spice from the rye? My first C3C is still in the fermenter.

Now that its had a few weeks to rest in the keg, this jus gets better and better. I adjusted the volume of Willamette hops to reach the target AAU of the original recipe (the current hop pellets from HopUnion have really low %Alpha Acids) and with the bit of rye, this is even a more refreshing beer than before. Almost a slightly lemony zestiness to it

 

[msa8967]

Has anyone thought about making this beer with a mixture of pilsen malt with a bit of 6-row instead of 2-row or pale malt?

 

[Helly]

I've never used 6 row myself. Seems like a natural for pilsener malt though.

 

[msa8967]

I was thinking of 2 parts pilsen malt to 1 part 6-row for the brew.

 

[watermelon83]

Just transferring my first ever batch of this. Can't wait to try it. View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1423780040.554577.jpg

 

[Kwitty]

I just opened my first bottle of this the other day. I went by the original all grain recipe. It was decent but had a strong corn flavor. I was hoping it was just a bit green and would get better with a little aging. What is the consensus on this? Did I miss something or does it just need time? Any thoughts appreciated.

 

[GenIke]

Mine was a little bit corny tasting too IMO. It wasnt around long enough to know how it aged though, so ... you know

 

[bizzyb]

I just opened my first bottle of this the other day. I went by the original all grain recipe. It was decent but had a strong corn flavor. I was hoping it was just a bit green and would get better with a little aging. What is the consensus on this? Did I miss something or does it just need time? Any thoughts appreciated.

I found that after about 1-2 weeks in the keg that corny flavour disappeared. Its been about a month since I first tapped the keg, I am down to the last of it and it really has improved!

I am going to try this with Pilsner malt as my next batch. Also, since i didnt have crystal or willamette, I have used saaz and Hallertau. Tastes great, dont have a reference point as to how it stacks against the intended recipe tho...

 

[Kwitty]

Guess it's right then! I'll give it month to age and see where it stands then. Not that it was bad, just not what I expected I guess? If it doesn't come around in a month I might try it again sometime with a few tweaks. Thanks for the input guys!

 

[wtaylor3]

I have another thread on here where I brewed it with Maris otter, and instant oats if you're interested in different tweaks to the flavor.

Just brewed today so it won't be updated for 10-14 days if I keg it 21 days if I end up bottling.

 

[GenIke]

I just made a batch using 6 pounds two row and 1.5 pounds each of the flaked rice and corn. That should tone the corn down a notch.

 

[Kwitty]

I figured I might cut the flaked corn in half and up the pale malt by a pound or two. I'll look for your thread wtaylor3. And let me know how your tweaks turned out for you GenIke. Sound like your on the same path I am. Plus I love Marris Otter! Made a couple smash recipes with Marris and they turned out great! I might go that route?

 

[Punx Clever]

Brewed 10 gallons of this guy back in December and inadvertently lagered it for over a month. As I was milling the grain, I realized that I was 2lbs short of 2-row (end of a 50lb sack), so I subbed an extra pound of minute rice and an extra pound of instant grits. Doesn't seem like it changed the flavor too much.

 

[ArizonaGoalie]

How about a 5.5 gallon grain bill?

5.5 lbs two row
2.5 lbs corn
1.0 lbs rice

Least that what beersmith seems to like.....


Thanks,

I've used this version of the recipe 8 times now. Every time it gets better and better and better. Definitely a very approachable beer for all your BMC or "I don't like dark beer" friends/wives/etc.

The only variation is using 14oz of minute rice as it comes in 14oz or 28oz boxes around here

I've also used cascade, northern brewer, and tettnang hops in this. All come out great, just make small adjustments for taste/bitter.

 

[dcrog]

I've used this version of the recipe 8 times now. Every time it gets better and better and better. Definitely a very approachable beer for all your BMC or "I don't like dark beer" friends/wives/etc.

The only variation is using 14oz of minute rice as it comes in 14oz or 28oz boxes around here

I've made it several times myself with the same minute rice (14 oz. iga generic box) and it usually comes in at about 6% for me.

Made it two sunday's ago with Marris Otter as the malt and actual flaked rice from the LHBS since I didn't want to go by the store to get the minute rice. It was only 1.69 per pound at the HB store. This is the first time I've hit the numbers exactly so I'm really interested to see how it comes out. I guess I'll keg it tomorrow and let everyone know.

Even at the usual 6% everyone who tried it loved it.

 

[wtaylor3]

I'm surprised you got it to 6%, mine came out to less than 5% with 2-row, grits, and generic rice

 

[dcrog]

Never really tried to. That's just where the hydrometer told me it was.

Never figured out why but it always seemed to take longer than the 90 minutes to convert. It did the same last time and I had to let it mash for two hours to get a good iodine test.

But the numbers came in like the original so I'm interested to see how it comes out.

Checked SG Wednesday and yesterday and no change at 1.006 so I crashed it to .5C. and will keg it today.

 

[sunshine22]

Brewed this yesterday. Pitched rehydrated us05 last night at about 9. Slow to none airlock activity at the moment and very large clumps of yeast hanging out all throughout. Temp is at a balmy 62-64 on the fermometer...any ideas on the lag?

 

[fastengine]

Brewed this yesterday. Pitched rehydrated us05 last night at about 9. Slow to none airlock activity at the moment and very large clumps of yeast hanging out all throughout. Temp is at a balmy 62-64 on the fermometer...any ideas on the lag?

Last couple of US-05 ferments I have done have taken about 40+ hours to show signs of activity. Once they took off they went great and all taste good, so I wouldn't worry too much yet.
I am fermenting in low to mid 60's and shake to oxygenate the wort before pitching.
How did you oxygenate your wort?

 

[sunshine22]

Last couple of US-05 ferments I have done have taken about 40+ hours to show signs of activity. Once they took off they went great and all taste good, so I wouldn't worry too much yet.
I am fermenting in low to mid 60's and shake to oxygenate the wort before pitching.
How did you oxygenate your wort?

I dump through a strainer and funnel and then shake and stir vigorously for about 5-10 mins

 

[phyllobeddo]

Brewed this yesterday. 2.5 gallon BIAB. OG was kinda high @ 1063. Mash efficiency was 79% according to Beersmith. This may be a 6 or 7%er. I guess I should have used 3 lbs of 2 row and not 4.

4 lb 2 Rahr 2 row
1 lb Flaked Maize
12.7 oz Flaked Rice
7.6 g Willamette
7 g Crystal
5.5 g Notty
90 minute mash
90 minute boil

 

[wtaylor3]

Brewed this yesterday. 2.5 gallon BIAB. OG was kinda high @ 1063. Mash efficiency was 79% according to Beersmith. This may be a 6 or 7%er. I guess I should have used 3 lbs of 2 row and not 4.

4 lb 2 Rahr 2 row
1 lb Flaked Maize
12.7 oz Flaked Rice
7.6 g Willamette
7 g Crystal
5.5 g Notty
90 minute mash
90 minute boil

You're gonna wish you had more, I do 5 gallon batches and I need more of this

 

[ArizonaGoalie]

I've made it several times myself with the same minute rice (14 oz. iga generic box) and it usually comes in at about 6% for me.

Made it two sunday's ago with Marris Otter as the malt and actual flaked rice from the LHBS since I didn't want to go by the store to get the minute rice. It was only 1.69 per pound at the HB store. This is the first time I've hit the numbers exactly so I'm really interested to see how it comes out. I guess I'll keg it tomorrow and let everyone know.

Even at the usual 6% everyone who tried it loved it.

Mine always shows up around 6% too. I like it like that

Just shared this with a guy this week who said he only liked lagers and he was begging me for a six pack the next day. Said it was "one of the best beers he's ever had." I have to agree, this recipe is rock solid, consistent, and a crowd pleaser. Even my hard core hophead friends can appreciate it.

 

[fastengine]

I dump through a strainer and funnel and then shake and stir vigorously for about 5-10 mins

How is this one going for you? Did it take off yet.

 

[dcrog]

Mine always shows up around 6% too. I like it like that

Me too, along with anyone who had tried it. That's why this one will be interesting, although the MO may change it a bit.

 

[wtaylor3]

Me too, along with anyone who had tried it. That's why this one will be interesting, although the MO may change it a bit.

Looking forward to your tasting notes as I have a version in the fermenter that was made with MO. I also added 4 oz instant oats to try to get more mouthfeel, hope I didn't take a great recipe and create a disaster lol