I picked mine at different times from green to yellowish and slightly brown to brown to see when they were "ready"..... And I get a grassy aroma from them no matter what. The Cascade smell is there, but still grassy too. I'm thinking one way not to worry about the grassiness to em is to use em in a Brett beer. I feel like grassy and barnyard would go together. That or pair em with a hop that's piney. I'm also debating using them as mash hops for some sort of sour. I feel like its kind of a waste of homegrown aroma hops, but it's better then a grass IPA.