Hey humps, how is primary doing? -cash0
I just combined the two batches and moved it to secondary yesterday after three weeks in primary. It was done fermenting and I wanted to harvest the yeast anyway.
The first batch was just over 3 gallons, the second was closer to 4. The second, with the extra .007 points of starting gravity actually tasted dramatically closer to the original. Combined, the batches came out a touch too thin, IMO... but pretty close. Something magical just seemed to happen as you got above 1.035 on this recipe. Those couple extra points on the FG just completely changed the beer; anything below 1.035 is just going to be too thin, and 1.040 would probably be exactly right. So adjust your OG up, depending on the yeast you use. If you're like I was, you're probably thinking, "What's .005 in a recipe that's finishing around 1.040? Besides, I don't mind a bit more alcohol." Well, if that's what you think, then just be advised it won't be a very good clone... it'll still be a really good beer, but it won't be a good clone. If you want higher alcohol, boost the OG a bit, because it's got to finish between 1.037 and maybe 1.043 or so to even be close to the original. It makes more of a difference than I expected, based on my experience with batches that finished at 1.033 and 1.036; The 1.033 was NOTICEABLY and indisputably too thin as a clone, no question about it. I would describe the 1.036 as "just a touch watery". Again, that's as a clone. It's still a damn fine beer and mighty close...
At this moment, I've just begun the oaking process.
Average combined OG was 1.128 (target was 1.129, I would recommend 1.131-1.35 next time, as I got slightly better attenuation with my yeast than they did. I pitched a 1L starter, off a stir-plate, at high-krausen for each ~3.5gal batch and aerated with pure O2).
Combined-batch FG was 1.035 (The SD Super Yeast did a slightly better job than expected. Using California Ale Yeast or US-05 probably would have left those couple extra points behind that I wanted, but I think upping the OG is a better solution than downgrading the yeast. Of course, if you don't pitch a healthy starter, don't have a stir plate, or can't use pure O2, the SD Super Yeast would probably get you right in the ballpark. On the other hand, if you do all that fancy stuff and don't want to up the OG, then CA Ale yeast or US-05 is probably the better choice).
12.3%ABV... it might drop another point or two in secondary though. Not likely, but who knows...
I used WLP090 SD Super Yeast and it really did clean up fast. Still a bit yeasty, but actually surprisingly drinkable already. Of course, the intense flavors tend to cover up the greenness of the beer. And I think I may have used a bit too much roasted barley, however it might mellow out over the next several months, so I'm holding off on saying that I definitely should have used less. Either way, I'm only talking about maybe a half pound too much, at the most. I actually like the extra bitterness anyway as this is a really sweet beer obviously.
I added 1oz of medium-toast oak cubes, soaked in whiskey. They were soaked for about 20 days before adding. I did not add the whiskey into secondary, but have reserved it in case I change my mind at kegging/bottling time. I expect it to hopefully go at least 3 months on the oak, but will sample it periodically to prevent over-oaking. I used Gentleman Jack whiskey as my local store was out of the 750mL Makers Mark at the time and I didn't want to buy anything smaller or larger. And I find GJ to be really smooth, so thought it would work well (I know it's actually a whiskey not a bourbon, but oh well).
Final thoughts: You will notice that all of the tweaks I'm posting are pretty minor. Wondering about having .5lbs too much Roasted Barley in a stout? Zeroing in on an FG that I feel was off by about 12%? Overall, I'd say that when it comes to cloning this beer, my procedures are a greater limiting factor than my recipe. That's why I'm obsessively posting notes on these threads... so I can go back and tweak the procedures to get closer next time. The recipe is really close and I think that with my posted tweaks and notes, a good brewer should be able to get close enough with my recipe to get confused about which is which... notwithstanding the outcome of my oaking procedure which remains to be tasted.
Also, I started
my own thread. The reason for that and the goal is to have my series of steps/procedures/processes laid out in an easy to follow manner. I'm actually doing that for my own benefit more than anybody else's... so I can brew it better next time. Not that I haven't learned a lot from this thread and the others' posts in it, but I trust my own taste buds more than others (no offense to anyone!), so I wanted my procedure laid out cleanly for me... And I thought others might also like having that information there in a linear fashion as well. So I figured it'd be better done as a thread on HBT, than as a Word Document on my computer.