BMC Flowchart

[Brewmoor]

I think it is funny how there are over 50 beers on that poster and all you brewers can talk about is PBR.

Good job BrewMoor

I try hard.

 

[Talloak]

The only advantage PBR has is its price points.

Bullsh**. PBR has a very distinct taste compared to other BMC type beers, and I like it. That's why I buy it when I am shopping for something within that price range. IMO, it is the best beer in that price range.

 

[d510addict]

They all have distinct tastes from each other but PBR cannot compete with BMC marketing power and public image. Thats why they keep the prices low.

 

[d510addict]

Also why did I get stuck with the old English and Mickeys

 

[Brewmoor]

Also why did I get stuck with the old English and Mickeys

I got stuck at labatt and molson

 

[Talloak]

I got stuck at the green bottle garbage: Heineken, Rolling Rock (blah) and Becks

 

[redraider629]

I got stuck at labatt and molson

that is what I was stuck with.

 

[MrWednesday]

I got Rheingold and Esslinger.

Man, just because a guy can read Ancient he can't appreciate a nice bottle of Clipper City?

 

[Fishin-Jay]

Lol, I got stuck at landshark lager. Bypassing that I would have ended at Sierra Nevada, et al

 

[lady_brewer]

I got to the end, but they don't sell any of those here as far as I know... made me a little sad. I want to try all the beers on the list... well not all I guess...

Funny that homebrewing has taken me from a one-beer-kinda gal (no I don't need a glass, I am drinking <local not weak as water domestic>) to a what shall we try this week in the hopes of coming up with enough bottles for what is in the brew-room lady.

What is this PRB you are all so occupied with? Forgive me, I am Canadian

 

[carnevoodoo]

The chart is amusing. I could have stopped at Utopias, but I only paid 180 for mine (haha, I said ONLY, good lord!) I like most of the chart, but I don't want to stop at ****ty summer choices. I want good beer in the summer, too!

Oh, and PBR is totally hipster beer. If you don't agree you're either out of the loop or you're a hipster. Not that there's anything wrong with PBR, I'm just saying the **** is hip as balls right now.

 

[khiddy]

Oh, and PBR is totally hipster beer. If you don't agree you're either out of the loop or you're a hipster. Not that there's anything wrong with PBR, I'm just saying the **** is hip as balls right now.

Well, I don't agree, and I live in Portland. I drink it 'cause it's delicious water, and it is handy when I don't have any homebrew on tap. Of course I've solved the latter problem by building my brew pipeline, but I still have a mini-fridge filled with PBR because it's inexpensive and easy to drink. As an added bonus, my friends will drink it if they're not into whatever hand-crafted brew I have on tap.

 

[mitch171]

Well, I don't agree, and I live in Portland. I drink it 'cause it's delicious water, and it is handy when I don't have any homebrew on tap. Of course I've solved the latter problem by building my brew pipeline, but I still have a mini-fridge filled with PBR because it's inexpensive and easy to drink. As an added bonus, my friends will drink it if they're not into whatever hand-crafted brew I have on tap.

Then I guess you are a hippster and you were just ahead of the curve!!

 

[carnevoodoo]

http://www.newser.com/story/75975/hipster-beer-pbr-cruises-in-recession.html

http://www.yelp.com/topic/san-francisco-hipsters-and-pbr-what-the-f-ck

http://www.ratebeer.com/forums/pbr-hipster-beer-and-lessons-in-advertising_128955_1.htm

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Portland Hipster

http://jyte.com/cl/anyone-who-drinks-pbr-in-portland-is-doing-so-because-they-cant-get-laid

 

[Hoppus_Poppatopolis]

Ladybrewer: PBR is Pabst Blue Ribbon. Geez; I'm going to have to buy some and try it again. I'm 50 and I don't think I've had it since I was underage.

BK: I noticed you have a couple of Pennsylvania beers on your table. Stoudts American Pale Ale is good stuff!

 

[carnevoodoo]

Oh, but you're probably right. The articles on the internet calling it a hipster beer in Portland have no merit whatsoever.

 

[remilard]

Well, I don't agree, and I live in Portland. I drink it 'cause it's delicious water, and it is handy when I don't have any homebrew on tap. Of course I've solved the latter problem by building my brew pipeline, but I still have a mini-fridge filled with PBR because it's inexpensive and easy to drink. As an added bonus, my friends will drink it if they're not into whatever hand-crafted brew I have on tap.

Plus it looks good with your skinny puppy t-shirt, amiright?

 

[carnevoodoo]

Plus it looks good with your skinny puppy t-shirt, amiright?

skinny puppy!? Wow, you just dated yourself right there.

 

[smizak]

I can't imagine living in Portland, f'n beervana surrounded by hop farms, and drinking PBR.

 

[smizak]

Plus it looks good with your skinny puppy t-shirt, amiright?

My friend flipped out on an "ironic" hipster who was wearing a Tesla shirt. He started screaming at him, "name one f*#king Tesla song!!!!" over and over again. I actually had to pull him away from the dude. Funny stuff.

 

[khiddy]

Thanks for the links, carnevoodoo. Pretty funny stuff. I stand by my assertion that drinking PBR doesn't make one a hipster. Hell, before switching to PBR, I drank Heidelberg (this is well before my homebrewing days). "Dancing with Heidi", we called it. Then Pabst bought Henry Weinhard's, and killed the Heidelberg brand. So we switched to PBR. No hipsterism involved.

And as far as I can tell, they don't make Skinny Puppy shirts in my size, so I'll have to forgo acceding to that accusation. I do, however, have a photo that Ray Daniels took of me and Fred Eckhardt, the beer writer, at the Green Dragon, a PDX pub. Neither of us were enjoying a PBR that night - I was having a New Belgium/Elysian Trippel IPA in this pic:

 

[carnevoodoo]

No, no... Drinking PBR just makes you have questionable taste (me included!). The assertion that I made was that PBR is a hipster beer, and it absolutely is. I am quite aware that there are people who ride fixed gear bikes also do so for sport and are not as douchy as the current trends suggest, but it happens.

 

[midfielder5]

this is a stupid argument but what the hell.... Two words: Venn diagram.

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/TC300020981033.aspx

make PBR one circle, with hipsters taking up PART of it with another circle [Yes they drink it here in S.F. too and anyone that denies it has no idea what they are talking about].

 

[d510addict]

Hey khiddy how's The Green Dragon? I've been wanting to try it out but haven't found any reviews that made it sound appealing.

 

[MVKTR2]

So I read the first 2 pages then skimmed to here. This thread was headed down but seems to have straightened out. Don't know why but with all the discussion at the beginning of how (all) choices are made based on coolness, I thought of a book. Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankel. Pretty heavy book, and one of the most important books of the 20th century. Anyway much of it centers around how people make decisions and process information. This is from the perspective of a Nazi Concentration Camp survivor. (sorry to bring the room down)

Before and after reading the book I've found it interesting how people make decisions. Most don't give it much thought and go with the flow or follow friends. If current pop star hottie lady gaga wore an different colored jump suits at red carpet events and on stage, they'd start showing up in the wardrobes of 'hip' women. Shallow people do shallow things, but we are all influenced by our environment.

Schlante,
Phillip

 

[d510addict]

I don't understand your post!!!

 

[khiddy]

Hey khiddy how's The Green Dragon? I've been wanting to try it out but haven't found any reviews that made it sound appealing.

It's definitely a bar for the beer fanatic. There's no BMC on tap, and they have over 50 taps. Interestingly, even though they're owned by Rogue now, they usually only have one or two Rogue brews on tap, and they seem to have a "Meet the Brewer" night every few weeks with people from Widmer and Deschutes and Full Sail (just in the last month), so they're definitely keeping it independent from the rest of the Rogue pubs (which is nice, methinks). They're working with the Oregon Brew Crew to release an on-site-brewed beer from their 1BBL system usually every 3 weeks, and those beers have been interesting.

The other commercial beers that they pour on tap are not just Oregon-based, they bring in some farther-away names like New Belgium and Elysian and some smaller craft breweries in Idaho, Montana, and NorCal. I think they even had the limited-release Life & Limb/Limb & Life collaborations from Sierra Nevada/Dogfish Head on tap (of course we were also able to get those in town at the Horse Brass, too).

The food is pretty good, as well. I particularly recommend the Beef Brisket Shepherd's Pie. Service is dog-slow, though, so don't expect to get out of there in a hurry. The ambience is pretty low, though each time I've been there it's been with some fellow brewers, so we're usually talkin' beer, not looking at the walls.

 

[mitch171]

So I read the first 2 pages then skimmed to here. This thread was headed down but seems to have straightened out. Don't know why but with all the discussion at the beginning of how (all) choices are made based on coolness, I thought of a book. Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankel. Pretty heavy book, and one of the most important books of the 20th century. Anyway much of it centers around how people make decisions and process information. This is from the perspective of a Nazi Concentration Camp survivor. (sorry to bring the room down)

Before and after reading the book I've found it interesting how people make decisions. Most don't give it much thought and go with the flow or follow friends. If current pop star hottie lady gaga wore an different colored jump suits at red carpet events and on stage, they'd start showing up in the wardrobes of 'hip' women. Shallow people do shallow things, but we are all influenced by our environment.

Schlante,
Phillip

This is very true and interesting, I will have to look that book up. Only thing I disagree with is that is Lady Gaga did something her fashion decisions would likely show up in the closets of "hip" transexuals and drag queens not "hip" women.

 

[motobrewer]

I'm just saying the **** is hip as balls right now.

i love everything about this sentence.

All I'm saying is.....my grandpa worked at PBR. True story. he retired before they royally screwed all the employees, tho. Still drinks it (well, Jacobs Best Light)

I did get to go on the tour when I was about 10 or so. I don't remember much. I drive by the brewery every day on the way to work

 

[remilard]

skinny puppy!? Wow, you just dated yourself right there.

Well the point is that people still wear them in PDX, but on a website limited to those 21 and over, how much information am I providing about my age by indicating I am aware of a band that reached the height of its popularity in the early 90s?