BIAB - Commercial scale?

[DawgPen Brewing]

I was talking to a local brewer here about squeezing the bag, and he could not be convinced that squeezing bags does not produce tannins

Someone read it in a book somewhere that it might happen so now it must be true for every circumstance going forward.

 

[Apple_Jacker]

Someone read it in a book somewhere that it might happen so now it must be true for every circumstance going forward.

Another guy also chimed in with me and said he squeezes the bag too with off flavor issues. The other guy dismissed it as people being more or less sensitive to different tastes. Oh well lol

 

[cmac62]

If you leave the bag suspended over the boil kettle for the entire boil I don't think squeezing would be needed.

 

[OG-wan Kenobi]

 

[dendron8]

now give that bag a squeeze. LOL

I actually do squeeze the bag. My arms are sore for a couple of days. I need to come up with a solution that doesn't involve me blasting my pecs

 

[ATLBeer]

I looked at that BrewHa system some time ago, and I still don't get it. The only advantage I see is footprint. But if you are building a brewery and are that confined in space, you picked the wrong location.

This system just doesn't scale economically. I'd bet the Colorado system and a single fermenter costs less than BrewHa. Then if I want to scale I just add fermenters, which would be cheaper than another BrewHa.

Am I off on my pricing assumptions?

 

[OG-wan Kenobi]

I looked at that BrewHa system some time ago, and I still don't get it. The only advantage I see is footprint. But if you are building a brewery and are that confined in space, you picked the wrong location.

This system just doesn't scale economically. I'd bet the Colorado system and a single fermenter costs less than BrewHa. Then if I want to scale I just add fermenters, which would be cheaper than another BrewHa.

Am I off on my pricing assumptions?

I agree it's very pricey especially for what it is however the 7bbl system makes more sense than the smaller systems financially, 7BBL system with the fermenter for 30K is an aggressive price point but additional tanks are more money than traditional fermenters at the same time. I also agree it's for someone very limited on space trying to force a space to work. I am not really a fan of the system however it did address the OP's post (better late than never) and it seems a few places out there are using it with success and they do have a point with it being self sanitizing.

 

[DawgPen Brewing]

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I looked at that BrewHa system some time ago, and I still don't get it. The only advantage I see is footprint. But if you are building a brewery and are that confined in space, you picked the wrong location.

This system just doesn't scale economically. I'd bet the Colorado system and a single fermenter costs less than BrewHa. Then if I want to scale I just add fermenters, which would be cheaper than another BrewHa.

Am I off on my pricing assumptions?

If you only did one type of beer at a time it may make sense but I think with two fermenters it would not make sense and certainly does not make sense wehn you consider going to 4 or 5 fermenters like most small breweries run.

 

[Wayne1]

Colorado Brewing Systems has ceased operation.

Colorado Brewing Systems

 

[DawgPen Brewing]

Colorado Brewing Systems has ceased operation.

Colorado Brewing Systems

Hate to hear that. Seems like they had a good thing going but Covid has been rough on a lot of good businesses.

 

[Hwk-I-St8]

I agree it's very pricey especially for what it is however the 7bbl system makes more sense than the smaller systems financially, 7BBL system with the fermenter for 30K is an aggressive price point but additional tanks are more money than traditional fermenters at the same time. I also agree it's for someone very limited on space trying to force a space to work. I am not really a fan of the system however it did address the OP's post (better late than never) and it seems a few places out there are using it with success and they do have a point with it being self sanitizing.

When I used to dream of opening a small brewery, I looked at BrewHa. I would think a big draw would be simplicity of the system. You don't have a lot of valves, plumbing, etc. Also, only one vessel to clean, so you save a bunch of time there as well. Those were the things that appealed to me at the time though I was just looking at them casually and never got as far as looking at cost vs benefit or scalability.

Another thought about scalability from my personal perspective: it's a non-issue. If I opened a brewery, it would be with the intention to keep it small, no distribution, maybe some canning to sell on site, but primarily as a brewpub. At my age, I have zero interest building an empire...I just want something I enjoy to do with my time when I retire.