BeerSmith 2.0

[wildwest450]

This bug has been reported.

http://www.beersmith.com/forum/index.php/topic,4729.0.html

doh! how did that slide during beta testing?


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[wyzazz]

doh! how did that slide during beta testing?

Sorry, I must have been slacking.

 

[terrapinj]

should boil time have an impact on SRM as well?

I noticed that changing from 60min to 120min doesn't impact color at all in 2.0, never tried it in 1.4

 

[Reelale]

Is it just me, or is this release very buggy for a full-blown revision? Not enough beta testing? I think I'm sticking with 1.4 until all the kinks are worked out.

 

[wildwest450]

Is it just me, or is this release very buggy for a full-blown revision? Not enough beta testing? I think I'm sticking with 1.4 until all the kinks are worked out.

Go check out their forum page, loaded with bugs, this sucks.


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[emjay]

Go check out their forum page, loaded with bugs, this sucks.

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Meh, it's been extremely usable for me regardless. The boil-off was always inaccurate anyways, even in 1.4, because it shouldn't be based on a percentage per hour, but rather a fixed volume per hour... it definitely doesn't take me the same time to boil 8gal down to 6gal as it does to boil 1gal down to 3 quarts...

 

[Reelale]

Go check out their forum page, loaded with bugs, this sucks.


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Yes it does. Hopefully it will get fixed. Beersmith 2.0 SP1? All of these seem to be user interface problems. Makes one wonder about the underlying formulas.

 

[passedpawn]

In the "Brew Log" view, I accidentally closed the preview window at the bottom half of screen. Anyone know how to get that back? Mainly, I need it because there is a bar on it that lets me export reports (i.e., Brewsheet). That is all gone now.

I had to go back to Version 1.4 to print the report. Sorta nice, that old version. I'm seriously considering going back to it, although I paid for 2.0.

 

[rack04]

In the "Brew Log" view, I accidentally closed the preview window at the bottom half of screen. Anyone know how to get that back? Mainly, I need it because there is a bar on it that lets me export reports (i.e., Brewsheet). That is all gone now.

I had to go back to Version 1.4 to print the report. Sorta nice, that old version. I'm seriously considering going back to it, although I paid for 2.0.

 

[passedpawn]

Thanks! (that worked). Funny, I never saw that little paper shaped button.

Oh, and I like the preview on the right.

 

[BigHefty]

I'm pretty bummed that the option to search recipes by available inventory is gone. However, Brad did say that he will likely add it back during an update. I guess I'll have to use v1.4 if I want to try new stuff with what I already have.

 

[wildwest450]

Meh, it's been extremely usable for me regardless.

Well meh, I have a 90 minute boil to do and it's giving me the same preboil as for a 60 minute. I had my old version dialed in perfectly for boiloff amounts, so I could give a flip about the whole percentage nonsense, it worked for me.


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[GilaMinumBeer]

Yes it does. Hopefully it will get fixed. Beersmith 2.0 SP1? All of these seem to be user interface problems. Makes one wonder about the underlying formulas.

I have only just last night DL'd and Installed v2.0. I was LOST!

Went ahead an re-installed v1.4 too for a comparison between the two apps "results". I'll assume that v1.4 is still trustworthy (in that I learned how to workaround it's limitations) and will compare the results between recipes as best as is possible.

 

[wyzazz]

I'll be the first one to say "Don't Uninstall 1.4 to run 2.0"!! You don't need to uninstall it to run the new version, and it gives you peace of mind to be able to flip back to the older version to double-check things or even to run them in parallel until you are comfortable with the new interface.

While I do like the newer version, there are some issues that still need to be worked out & it does take quite a bit of getting used to to move around in the new UI.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I'll be the first one to say "Don't Uninstall 1.4 to run 2.0"!! You don't need to uninstall it to run the new version, and it gives you peace of mind to be able to flip back to the older version to double-check things or even to run them in parallel until you are comfortable with the new interface.

While I do like the newer version, there are some issues that still need to be worked out & it does take quite a bit of getting used to to move around in the new UI.

The re-install came necessitated by a clean install of a new OS.

 

[ArcaneXor]

Well meh, I have a 90 minute boil to do and it's giving me the same preboil as for a 60 minute. I had my old version dialed in perfectly for boiloff amounts, so I could give a flip about the whole percentage nonsense, it worked for me.


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Annoying bug, but easy to fix. Just re-enter your boil-off rate or percentage after changing the boil duration.

 

[emjay]

Well meh, I have a 90 minute boil to do and it's giving me the same preboil as for a 60 minute. I had my old version dialed in perfectly for boiloff amounts, so I could give a flip about the whole percentage nonsense, it worked for me.

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Fair enough, wasn't trying to be dismissive of your complaint, and I apologize if that's how you felt. If anything, it's my biggest peeve so far... not only because it's buggy, but because even if it wasn't, it's obvious Brad intends to use the same, extremely flawed method.

 

[charliec]

I'll be running 1.4 and 2.0 side by side for a while until I'm just a little more comfortable with 2.0.

 

[petep1980]

I like it a lot. I love how water volumes are in the recipes now.

I cannot find reports, or brew day sheets though.

 

[ArcaneXor]

I like it a lot. I love how water volumes are in the recipes now.

I cannot find reports, or brew day sheets though.

Go to recipes. If you don't see the reports on the bottom of your screen after you select a recipe (single-click), click on the icon that rack04 highlighted in his post. One of the report options is the brew day sheet. It can also be found by clicking on the Brew Steps icon on the right of the ribbon bar (home tab).

 

[petep1980]

Go to recipes. If you don't see the reports on the bottom of your screen after you select a recipe (single-click), click on the icon that rack04 highlighted in his post. One of the report options is the brew day sheet. It can also be found by clicking on the Brew Steps icon on the right of the ribbon bar (home tab).

That was easy. Thanks.

 

[motobrewer]

When I click on "notes", then start typing notes, I can't get back to the actual recipe.

 

[wildwest450]

Fair enough, wasn't trying to be dismissive of your complaint, and I apologize if that's how you felt. If anything, it's my biggest peeve so far... not only because it's buggy, but because even if it wasn't, it's obvious Brad intends to use the same, extremely flawed method.

Don't sweat it, I didn't take it that way. It's just frustrating that something so simple was overlooked.

I don't remember the first addition having all these problems.

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[wildwest450]

When I click on "notes", then start typing notes, I can't get back to the actual recipe.

Why can't you just click the recipe design tab? It works for me.


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[motobrewer]

lol, i'm an idiot.

i didn't realize the screen shifted down

 

[Homercidal]

I've had a problem ever since beersmith 1. I can't get the mash profile to do what I want.

I want to know how much sparge water to add. Every time I do it, it tells me all kinds of crazy things. Previously I drained my mash tun and sparged twice. Recently I've gone to sparging once. But it keeps telling me to add .5 gallons then 4 gallons or what have you.

I just want to tell it I want to sparge 1 time! Or maybe 2 times. Isn't there a setting for that? I play with all kinds of things, but it never seems to come out right. I know I'm doing something wrong.

I batch sparge, no mash out.

EDIT: Never mind. Somehow I played with it one more time and figured it out.

I did find out that you need to close your recipe and re-open whenever you adjust the mash process.

 

[motobrewer]

I do the same thing, Homer. never got to work in 1.4, haven't gotten it to work in 2.0

single batch sparge, no mashout - just tell me how much to sparge with already!

 

[weirdboy]

I did find out that you need to close your recipe and re-open whenever you adjust the mash process.

Yeah, or make any changes at all apparently. How none of these huge bugs were detected in the beta is beyond my comprehension. Were the beta testers actually using the program?


At this point I feel like I threw my money away on this "upgrade".

 

[Homercidal]

I do the same thing, Homer. never got to work in 1.4, haven't gotten it to work in 2.0

single batch sparge, no mashout - just tell me how much to sparge with already!

If you select "Infusion Mash, no Mash Out" then make sure you have "Drain Mash Tun Before Sparging" This sets "Batch Sparge Mode". Set your mash to use 90-100% of your tun. I think this will allow you to usually do a single sparge if you want to. Otherwise, if you want to do 2-3 sparges, you can check the "equal batches" and lower the mash tun % to fill until you get the number of sparges you want.

I think the problem I had was not knowing that you had to re-open the recipe to see your changes.

Yeah, or make any changes at all apparently. How none of these huge bugs were detected in the beta is beyond my comprehension. Were the beta testers actually using the program?


At this point I feel like I threw my money away on this "upgrade".

I haven't had a chance to really use it, but this is one thing that feels like a big WTH?? to me. I'm no programmer, but having to close a recipe an reopen to adjust the mash kind of sucks. Seems like there would be a way to have the software automatically do that, or make it transparent behind the scenes.

It's going to take me a little time to get used to the new layout, just automatically knowing where things are. It seems there are least two places to find most tools.

 

[Sithdad]

I've made adjustments to my mash schedule in the recipe and it updates that recipe right away, however that only updates the current recipe. If you're going to make changes to your mash profile then you'd have to close the current recipe and re-open it to put the new profile into effect.