Aquos + HD DVR = @#$% yeah!

[Evan!]

There's really not a lot that can be done. I mean, it's like taking a small jpeg and trying to make it bigger in photoshop, it's gonna be blurry, so you try and sharpen it, then it just looks jagged and, bleh. I'd rather watch it in it's natural format, then blown up and filtered, ya know?

Precisely my point. Not that I mind watching SD DVD's on the aquos, but it's nothing to drop my jaw over, like the game last night was.

 

[iamjonsharp]

There's really not a lot that can be done. I mean, it's like taking a small jpeg and trying to make it bigger in photoshop, it's gonna be blurry, so you try and sharpen it, then it just looks jagged and, bleh. I'd rather watch it in it's natural format, then blown up and filtered, ya know?

It's not going to be as good as full blown hd, but it makes regular dvds look better. The upconverting DVD player I have has a noticeable difference when the upconverting setting is on compared to not on. There is more to upconverting than simply blowing the picture up, its uses some sort of algorithms to blow it up and then sharpens the edges and stuff or something.

 

[Bobby_M]

I have an upconverting player and I can't tell the difference between letting the player upconvert or letting the front projector do it. I DID notice an improvment when I started using the HDMI cable though, again, no difference regarding which device did the upconverting to the projector's native 720p res.

People talk about the HD disc war like it's some lifelong, irreversible decision. I've given up buying discs period with all the mail order rental availability. By the time there's a "winner" in the format war, whatever player you buy is probably going to be landfill material anyway. Pick up any sub $400 player and simply rent movies for a few years. Once you watch a really good HD transfer, you'll start treating SDDVD like is was recorded on VHS.

 

[kornkob]

but the ps3 is not going to die any time soon, its just picking up pace and it uses blu ray and so does all of it's games.

I don't think that is true. I'll have to grab one of our games when I get to work on Monday but I am reasonably sure that we are not yet producing games on blu ray. We are not yet testing any games using blu ray media or formatting because none of the games we have made as yet exceed the capacity and capability of a dual layer DVD.

I have a Blu Ray burner at work at a dozen or so discs in order to test if we need to but I've only made one disc thus far and that was just to make sure the burner worked.

We're paying about $11 per disc, in bulk, for Blu Ray discs at this point. We pay a little less than $1 for a dual layer DVD. It simply doesn't make fiscal sense for us to make games on Blu Ray at this point, especially budget titles.

A game costs us about $5 in packaging and media on a DVD. Then there is $7-12 that goes directly to the company that makes the console (varies based on console). PS3 is top of the heap right now at $12 per disc we make. So we're looking at $17 bucks in costs coming out the door for a PS3 game. That's before we pay salaries, overhead, marketing, sales fees, etc. If we add $10 to each disc because we use Blu Ray media, that would seriously impact our ability to make a profit on our games.

I could be wrong and I'm sure that there are a few games out there produced on blu ray, if only so that Sony cna have a live proof of concept.

*returns to his beer*

 

[Ó Flannagáin]

I don't think that is true. I'll have to grab one of our games when I get to work on Monday but I am reasonably sure that we are not yet producing games on blu ray. We are not yet testing any games using blu ray media or formatting because none of the games we have made as yet exceed the capacity and capability of a dual layer DVD.

I have a Blu Ray burner at work at a dozen or so discs in order to test if we need to but I've only made one disc thus far and that was just to make sure the burner worked.

We're paying about $11 per disc, in bulk, for Blu Ray discs at this point. We pay a little less than $1 for a dual layer DVD. It simply doesn't make fiscal sense for us to make games on Blu Ray at this point, especially budget titles.

A game costs us about $5 in packaging and media on a DVD. Then there is $7-12 that goes directly to the company that makes the console (varies based on console). PS3 is top of the heap right now at $12 per disc we make. So we're looking at $17 bucks in costs coming out the door for a PS3 game. That's before we pay salaries, overhead, marketing, sales fees, etc. If we add $10 to each disc because we use Blu Ray media, that would seriously impact our ability to make a profit on our games.

I could be wrong and I'm sure that there are a few games out there produced on blu ray, if only so that Sony cna have a live proof of concept.

*returns to his beer*

You're probably right, i was probably talking out my ass, but all the ps3 games I've gotten so far have been on blu ray.

 

[ScubaSteve]

Hey....all I'm sayin' is......70-somethin-% of purchases favoring Blu-Ray this holiday season is a pretty bad disparity. Like Bobby says, you're not committed to one choice or the other, but most of us want to make the best decision the first time. The studios/game designers may find it cheaper to produce, but if 70% of the market is buying blu-ray, I bet you can guess which group they're gonna target That's all I'm sayin'

 

[kornkob]

I was speaking specifically to games in my case.


However, I'd be wary of the numbers games that both parties are playing right now. Sell throughs vs sell to are easy to manipulate into showing 'sales wins' for marketing purposes.

 

[budbo]

I figured it out now...the hard way. I can't justify spending another 2 or 3 hundred on an HD DVD player yet.

Take it back

 

[Evan!]

Take it back

That was my first thought, but I do need some kind of DVD player on the aquos, even if it's standard def. And if there is some kind of crazy deal on HD DVD players in the near future, well, this Philips one was a whopping $60, and we've been wanting one in the bedroom anyway, so...there you go. Not worth returning for $60, when we'll probably be using it for awhile, or at least until a reasonable HD player comes along.

 

[Bobby_M]

Some people scored the A2 from Walmart for $100 a couple weeks ago. I frickin missed it and I'm solidly pissed. At that price I'd buy two.

 

[Evan!]

Some people scored the A2 from Walmart for $100 a couple weeks ago. I frickin missed it and I'm solidly pissed. At that price I'd buy two.

I know. I was just trying to get the Aquos. No point in buying the HD DVD if we didn't get the deal on the TV. Then I find out, the week after black friday, that walmart had them on special. And walmart was right down the block from the circuit city where we got the aquos. damn.