Another good use for Starsan

[98EXL]

neato!

Hey kvh, I'll choke down some Red Stripe for you, stuff is good IMHO

 

[traderearl]

The star san worked great on my stone bottles but it doesn't seem to do anything to my Rogue or San Lucas bottles. I have had them in there about a month and can't really get anything off of them. Has anyone else had problems with these?

 

[kvh]

neato!

Hey kvh, I'll choke down some Red Stripe for you, stuff is good IMHO

That would be awesome!

thx!!!

kvh

 

[98EXL]

That would be awesome!

thx!!!

kvh

And it's on sale at the second closest beer store to me @ $12.99/12 pack

 

[Sir Humpsalot]

The star san worked great on my stone bottles but it doesn't seem to do anything to my Rogue or San Lucas bottles. I have had them in there about a month and can't really get anything off of them. Has anyone else had problems with these?

Yup. Two weeks in starsan and the Rogue bottles are just a little bit scratchy. Some better than others. Most though, I still can't scrape with a fingernail..

 

[EdWort]

Yup. Two weeks in starsan and the Rogue bottles are just a little bit scratchy. Some better than others. Most though, I still can't scrape with a fingernail..

I would then use 4 Tbs. per 5 gallons. That should eat through it. Wear rubber gloves when upping the concentration though.

 

[traderearl]

2 tablespoons per 5 gallons of water is the same thing as 1 ounce which is what it says to use on the bottle. I already started at that concentration. Maybe one would need to go even higher on the Rogue bottles.


That is interesting how we can just completely change our posts after already posting

 

[EdWort]

Whoops. Fixed it. I was thinking I always mix mine at 1 Tbs. to 2 1/2 gallons.

 

[JustDave]

This thread deserves a bump because it is a great tip. I had a few Arrogant Bastard bottles that I soaked in Starsan for about a week ... pulled them out today and the paint came right off.

One thing I found odd was that it didn't work on the Double Bastard bottles soaked in the same bucket. Maybe they use double the paint?

 

[FlyingHorse]

One thing I found odd was that it didn't work on the Double Bastard bottles soaked in the same bucket. Maybe they use double the paint?

Worked fine on my DB bottle, though I had to give it a once-over with a scotchbrite after a couple days to help it along, then soak for another couple days.

 

[JustDave]

Worked fine on my DB bottle, though I had to give it a once-over with a scotchbrite after a couple days to help it along, then soak for another couple days.

Hmmm, weird. I used a Scotchbrite pad now, and nothing's coming off. Oh well, I'll give it more time. It's only 3 bottles, no big deal.

 

[kvh]

Alas, I just soaked a Red Stripe bottle for 3 weeks... nothin'. The red ink came off a little, but the white is stuck on.

Oh well...

kvh

 

[EdWort]

I've found that scrubbing after soaking does not work as well as giving them a rinse, then letting them dry before going at them with a scotch pad under water again.

I think the drying after soaking makes the paint brittle and it loses its ability to adhere to the bottle.

 

[ρ®ïMσ]

What does RO stand for?

i believe it stands for Reverse Osmosis purified water

 

[Donasay]

KVH did you ever re-try the red stripe bottles any success....

 

[Nierika]

I tried out the star san on 3 Rogue 22oz Dead Guy bottles. After soaking overnight, I was able to simply wipe away the white paint with a scrubbie. The red paint seems to be on there a little better, but will come off with a little elbow grease. I opted to throw them back into the star san for another day. I'll let everyone know if the red comes off easily tomorrow.

 

[NitrouStang96]

This is fantastic news. I'm going to see if I can get 24hr turnaround with a high SS concentration. I will report back.

 

[NitrouStang96]

Click for thread... 2 hour soak

 

[Nierika]

Just an update. After letting the bottles soak for another 24 hours, the red paint was coming off easily in some places. I threw them back in the starsan overnight, and this morning I removed the remaining paint with a light scrub Thank's Ed!

 

[Revvy]

Well I've tried this repeated over the last couple weeks and had some interesting things happen...

Stone Bottles clean off beautifully....

Rogue and Mexican Coke bottles do not seem give up their paint EVEN when using the solution at double the recommended strength of stars & water.

I soaked them with the stones and redstripes for 2 weeks at regular strength...then mixed up the 2 ounces/5 gallons...and still no luck after another 2 weeks...

The most interesting thing was Redstripe Bottles....

I had 12 bottles...6 of them have been stored under my sink for about 4 years...and six more I got this summer from my nextdoor neighbor...

Well six of them came clean in the regular strength concentration of starsan water after 2 weeks...

The other six are still just as solid after soaking in the double strength solution with the rogue and mexican coke bottles....

I wish I had thought to mark which stripe bottles were which, to know if it was the older bottles that came clean or not...methinks maybe redstripe changed the chemistry of their paint at some point.

So, I guess mucuraic acid is next?

 

[Mr. Nice Guy]

You can clean Rogue bottles with a stainless scrubby pad. It takes a few minutes but if you only have a couple of bombers it is easy. This does not work even in the slightest on corona or red stripe.

People were asking about Sessions by Full Sail. In my opinion it is awesome. It is a lighter style of beer that is done right.

 

[midfielder5]

I soaked some bottles for weeks in star-san. When I pulled them out, there was a white filmy residue inside, at the bottom, that I could not clean out or scrub off with a bottle brush cleaner.
Is it starsan residue? I have never used starsan before.
thanks

EDIT: I put some warm water and baking soda in these bottles. After ~ 5 days I scrubbed and rinsed again; the residue came out.

 

[Munsoned]

Bump for some "user results":

The quarry:
Six Stone bottles (1 Ruination, 5 Arrogant Bastards), and two Rogue bottles that I've been trying to remove the paint on.

First, I soaked in oxyclean for about a week.
Result: On one or two of the AB bottles, I could scratch off some of the paint with my fingernail, but it was going to take a LONG time to get it all off.

So, I rinsed, doubled up the intensity of the StarSan, and let them soak overnight.
Result: The paint on 3 ABs and the Ruination came right off, the paint on the other 2 ABs came off, but was much more stubborn. Hard to describe. The easy four came off like watercolors running off the bottle, the two tough ones were more like little tiny chips of paint or glitter. It came off, but took a lot more work.

I also noticed that the AB bottles had very slightly different designs. One of those groups had a little box on the side that says "Keep refridgerated numbskull," the others didn't. Unfortunately, I can't remember which group was which, but they probably changed the bottle design and paint application. I think the one with the little box may have been the one that was easier to get the paint off of.

Nothing could get the paint off the Rogue bottles (a Mocha Porter and a Dead Guy Ale). Can't even get a *little* chip of paint off those. Short of a deep hydrocloric acid soak or some sandblasting, they're on there forever methinks.

 

[rico567]

The Handbook of Chemistry and Physics has a formula in an appendix for a glass cleaner. I have made & used it in the lab, and it will take -anything- off glass. It's based on concentrated sulfuric acid. I will not even venture to list this recipe here, because of its extremely hazardous nature for those not used to working with strong chemicals. It's in the reference cited above if you want to make some. Remember: when diluting an acid, you must add the acid to the water.

 

[passedpawn]

The Handbook of Chemistry and Physics has a formula in an appendix for a glass cleaner. [/U].

Just looked... I don't see it. I have CRC 73d ed. Where?

 

[mordantly]

starsan also works wonders on yuor junk.. after a "suspect" drunken encounter.

 

[Hoosierbilly]

The Handbook of Chemistry and Physics has a formula in an appendix for a glass cleaner. I have made & used it in the lab, and it will take -anything- off glass. It's based on concentrated sulfuric acid. I will not even venture to list this recipe here, because of its extremely hazardous nature for those not used to working with strong chemicals. It's in the reference cited above if you want to make some. Remember: when diluting an acid, you must add the acid to the water.

do you know why you have to add the acid to the water and not the other way around? just curious, thanks

 

[mordantly]

so it will be diluted and not react violently in your face

 

[Hoosierbilly]

hmm, we never talked about that in any of my 1000's of hours spent in chem courses or labs...seems like something they probably should have mentioned to us, seems like something very nice to know...found the answer at this link if anyones interested (probly not though hah)

http://chemistry.about.com/od/chemistrystudentfaqs/f/sulfuricwater.htm

 

[mordantly]

If you think your life's too placid, add the water to the acid.

good stuff! maybe i should put sodium in water too?