American IPA All Amarillo IPA

[mbtech]

Hey yall. I'm gettin ready to do my second batch. I was considering using a crystal 20 instead of 40 and using 8 lbs of DME. How would this change the end result from what the original recipe calls for? I was very happy with my alteration of the original recipe when I first made this so I might just have to stick with that. Your thoughts?

 

[TacoGuthrie]

20 would give you a lighter colour beer. No flavour changes.

an extra lb of DME means a high OG and therefore higher alcohol %. According to my beersmith new OG would be 1.073 and around a 7% ABV. If you didn't change the hop schedule you'd get a maltier beer.

I don't know what your previous alterations were though.

 

[DRoyLenz]

Just brewed this this past weekend. I made a little boo boo, but nothing that should drastically affect the outcome of the brew.

I added 3 gallons (edit: pounds) of the DME at the beginning of the boil, and planned to add the remaining 4 gallons (edit: pounds) nearing the end of the boil. I get to the end of the boil, finish off my hop schedule, and put the kettle in the ice bath, only to realize that I forgot the other 4 lbs of DME. I rushed it back on the burner (by now it had only cooled to 180F) and added the remaining DME. Fearing that I was going to lose a lot of the hop flavor and aroma to the added boil time, I added another ounce of Amarillo (5 oz. total at this point. at flame out. I was saving that ounce for dry-hopping, in case I needed it, but figured this was more important. So I'll probably just end up with a slightly more bitter IPA (which is never really a problem IMO).

 

[-TH-]

Looking good. You'll be addicted to Amarillo after this batch, if you're not already.

My all-grain batch should be ready in a week and a half. Can't wait.

I know its only been like exactly a week and a half, but have you tried this yet? I am looking to make an AG version of this as well. If yours turned out good I'd love to know how you converted the recipe to AG.

 

[Rick500]

I'm kegging it this evening. I'll let you know how it turned out after it carbs up.

The hydro sample tasted really good though.

 

[craven_morhead]

I just got a slightly modified version into bottles last night. My recipe:

.5 lb Crystal 40L
6.5 lb Light LME
2.8 lb Amber LME
.5 oz Magnum at 60
.5 oz Amarillo at 60
Another ounce and a half of Amarillo continuously added during the boil, dry hopping another ounce of Amarillo.
OG 1.070
FG 1.025

Hydro sample tasted great, we'll see what it's like in 3 weeks.

 

[Rick500]

[Edit: This is for six gallons.]

Here's mine:

13.00 lb Pale Malt (2-Row) US (2.0 SRM) 95.59%
0.60 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) 4.41%
1.63 oz Amarillo (9.00%) (60 min) 53.7 IBU
1.10 oz Amarillo (9.00%) (15 min) 9.7 IBU
1.10 oz Amarillo (9.00%) (5 min) 6.1 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo (9.00%) (0 min) -
1.17 oz Amarillo (9.00%) (Dry Hop 10 days) -
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 min)
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 10.0 min)
1 Pkgs Bell's Ale Yeast from Two-Hearted Ale (Starter 2000 ml)

Mash at 152F for 60 minutes.
Ferment for 14 days before dry hopping.
Ferment at 66F.

OG 1.062
FG 1.013
69.4 IBUs (Rager)
6.4 SRM
6.4% ABV

 

[Rick500]

Okay, it's carbed up. It's wonderful.

I can't say better than the extract version -- it's really just the same (which is great!).

This batch is a little higher in alcohol than the last batch. The yeast brought the gravity down a little lower than last batch.

 

[BeantownR6]

Just brewed this up but added an extra ounce of hops. I did a 2.75 gal boil and added 1/2 the dme at 15 min. cant wait to see how this come out. the sample tasted great!

1.75 oz Amarillo 8%AA for 60 Min
1.25 oz Amarillo 8%AA for for 15 Min
1.25 oz Amarillo 8%AA for for 5 Min
.75 oz Amarillo 8%AA for at flameout

 

[craven_morhead]

I'm pretty happy with this guy; it was really green after the first 2 weeks or so in the bottle, but now it's leveling out nicely. Great lacing and head, good hop kick.

 

[Rick500]

Both the extract and the all-grain batch of this beer that I brewed, had/have an awesome creamy head and great lacing. Not sure what to attribute that to, it's only 2-row and crystal malt and hops... But I'm really happy with the way it's turned out both times.

 

[rwagner23]

Going to brew this one tomorrow. LHBS didn't have Crystal 40, so I did .25 of both Crystal 20 and 60.

 

[bigred]

I am going to give this brew a shot next week. Just a few questions to make sure it turns out as tasty as you guys say it is.

First, my brew shop doesn't carry safale, so what would you guys recommend? I know they carry Nottingham, would that be a good substitute? And should it be ok without a starter?

I am planning on doing a late extract addition(3.5 lbs start, and 3.5 lbs with 10 minutes remaining). I also plan on steeping the grains in 1.5 gallons of water. My question is how much water should I use for the boil, and what temp do you guys boil it at?

My last question for now is how do you guys aerate it?

Sorry for all the questions, this will only be my third batch and I want to make sure I do it right.

Thanks

 

[Rick500]

The first batch of this beer I brewed was an extract batch, and I did a full boil.

Use cultured Bell's ale yeast, or WLP051 or Wyeast 1272, if you can get it, or Safale-05 or Nottingham if that's what's available. You don't need a starter with Safale-05 or Nottingham.

Late extract addition is a great idea, and is how I brewed my extract batch.

Boiling water is always 212F, give or take a few degrees based on your altitude. Just a nice rolling boil is all you need. As long as the surface is rolling at least a little, it's fine.

When it's cool, put the wort into your fermenter and shake it around for 5 minutes. That's plenty of aeration.

Good luck! You'll love this beer.

 

[bigred]

Thanks a lot for the help Rick, thats exactly what I was looking for. I have read that you cool it down to 75 degrees before you pitch the yeast... does this sound on track? And last question for now is how much yeast do I need to pitch for a 5 gallon batch? My brew shop sells 20g packs, but they say they use them for 10 gallon batches so use half for a 5 gallon. How much do you guys pitch?

Thanks again for helping out a newbie, and I will be sure to keep you guys posted on how the brew is coming along.

 

[Rick500]

75F is fine... 70F would be better, but it's not a huge deal. Just try to control your fermentation temperature for at least 3 days or so. 65F to 68F would be optimal. With Nottingham, the lower part of that range would be best.

 

[bigred]

Well I got some sh#tty news, no brew shop within an hour of me carries amarillo hops!!!!! I have looked at some cross-references and it looks like cascade is the closest I will be able to get. Do you guys think it will come out at all the same? I know it will still taste like beer, but will it be good?

 

[Palefire]

Well I got some sh#tty news, no brew shop within an hour of me carries amarillo hops!!!!! I have looked at some cross-references and it looks like cascade is the closest I will be able to get. Do you guys think it will come out at all the same? I know it will still taste like beer, but will it be good?

Having not made this beer yet, but getting closer and closer (basically just waiting to run out of hops so I can convince SWMBO to let me put in a new order with hopsdirect), I can tell you that it will definitely taste different. The general recipe is pretty basic, malt-wise, so what makes a beer like this is the hops.

That said, an all-Cascade version of this would probably also be fantastic. Lots of IPAs are made with cascades, and they're usually pretty great.

But if you're really itchin' to make this, hopsdirect has Amarillo for something like $11.75/lb. Won't get much cheaper than that!

 

[imprez25]

I just got this into the fermentor. However, Now that I see the original recipe I realize that I used too much Chrystal Malt. I used 1lb. What should I expect... aside from great tasting beer!?!?

 

[Rick500]

It'll be a little darker and maybe a little sweeter. Should be good though!

 

[imprez25]

Thanks for the input. I was dreaming of this beer last night after I got it in the fermentor. I It was bubbling this morning my the time I woke up!

 

[DRoyLenz]

I'm trying to figure out if this would qualify as more of an American IPA, or an English IPA. If you ask me, it comes close to meeting the standards for both, but I get an American feel from it? What do you guys thing?

 

[Rick500]

American hops, clean fermenting yeast, so American IPA.

 

[bigred]

So I brewed this up on Monday. The whole process went smooth, just a couple questions to make sure the beer is on track.

I used a strainer the try to get out all of the hops that I could, but it was too course and lots got through. So now I have about 1/2-3/4" of hops floating on top of the beer in my carboy....is this ok? There is still a lot of activity throughout the actual beer just not on top.

And second, the air lock is maybe bubbling 4-5 times a minute, is this ok? I am fermenting a stout right now and within 14 hours, I had to but on a blow off. I'm just wondering if the hops are keeping it from foaming up and fermenting properly.

Thanks to everybody who has answered some of my many questions along the way, it is really appreciated.

 

[Rick500]

Yes, that's all okay.

 

[mbtech]

I dry hopped mine in the secondary and I had bits floating all over the place. Should you get one in a bottle at bottling time, its good luck. Like a bay leaf.

 

[jkarp]

Just tapped another batch of my AG Amarillo IPA tonight. This stuff's like crack. I can't stop drinking it. Makes me wonder why commercial brewers haven't picked up more on Amarillo...

 

[Rick500]

Yep, it's a beautiful thing. I'm gonna have to brew a third batch here pretty soon.

 

[DRoyLenz]

Your stupid beer is screwing up my damned pipeline. I usually can count on a 5 gallon batch lasting me 3 weeks while my other brews condition. I'm pounding through this last batch so quickly, I'm going to have to start paying for commercial brews soon while I wait for my next Wit to finish.

 

[Rick500]

Where's TheJadedDog... it's his stupid beer.

I had the same issue with my first batch. It was gone in no time.