90 min IPA

Brewno · Sep 9, 2006

Orpheus said:
Exo,

I dry-hopped my IPA with 1 oz Cascade and 1 oz Centennial and man am I loving it. It sucks this beer is half gone and I just kegged it last weekend and I'm the only one drinking it. Is this a bad thing? I guess I'll just have to brew it again!:fro:

Has anyone ever heard of or tried First Wort Hopping (FWH)?

From what I was told by an experienced brewer was that this process involves adding hops to the kettle when collecting sparge for, an all grain, before the boil starts he went on to explain temps and things that went over my head as an extract/partial grain brewer.
He said it adds aroma and flavor but not bitterness or not as much as adding at the start of the boil.

He went on to explain that as an extract brewer I can do pretty much the same thing by adding hops before my boil. He mentioned something about 170 degrees (maybe less than or not above that? Something about the hop flavor compounds being isomerized at the sparge temperatures so they stay in the
beer.

Tommy

Orpheus · Sep 9, 2006

Sean,

I was saying in another thread that I went to DFH and had the 60 Minute on tap. I LOVED it. It was fresh, with a gorgeous aroma of fresh hops and a nice hop bitterness and bite to it.

I had the "same" beer from the bottle. Only, it's not the same beer. The hop aroma is changed dramatically. There is no fresh hop aroma coming from it. I can't even discern the hops from the bottled version. The draught version, I was sipping it and could almost guess at the different kinds of hops in there. It was delicious.

I had the 90 Minute again at the bar and liked it. It was almost a hop wine with 9% alcohol. It had intense hop aroma and bitterness and was definitely a sipping beer, but it was full of fresh hop bite and aroma. I can imagine based on my experience with the 60 minute, this might not work in the bottle either.

I don't understand it. How can the same beer taste so dramatically different from keg to bottle!? I guess I'm assuming they don't add anything to it for bottling purposes. :drunk:

Exo · Sep 9, 2006

I've never seen any yeast in the bottom so assume it's not bottle-conditioned. I am assuming that it's not real fresh and shipping (heat, jostling, light and age) has damaged the beer.

If I manage to make it to my area's Brew-Fest next weekend I'll definitely ask them what is up with that.

Orpheus · Sep 9, 2006

FWIW the bottle of DFH 60 I had last night was bottled 7/05/06.

It's not that it was bad, it was just a let down after tasting the draught.

Captain Willard · Sep 9, 2006

OK, so this thread motivated me to slip another 90 minute into my mix today. I just opened it, and it's my first brew of the day. I think what I perceived as a raisin flavor is a combination of the cloying barley wine sweetness of the malt and the hop floral and citrus notes. They hit me at the same time, but they are distinct flavors, I think. I have to say, I'm enjoying this a lot more than I did the last time I had it. Maybe it's the temperature, the last time it was a little on the cold side. And I was a little on the drunk side. :drunk:

Todd · Sep 27, 2006

Orpheus said:
Sean,

I was saying in another thread that I went to DFH and had the 60 Minute on tap. I LOVED it. It was fresh, with a gorgeous aroma of fresh hops and a nice hop bitterness and bite to it.

I had the "same" beer from the bottle. Only, it's not the same beer. The hop aroma is changed dramatically. There is no fresh hop aroma coming from it. I can't even discern the hops from the bottled version. The draught version, I was sipping it and could almost guess at the different kinds of hops in there. It was delicious.

I had the 90 Minute again at the bar and liked it. It was almost a hop wine with 9% alcohol. It had intense hop aroma and bitterness and was definitely a sipping beer, but it was full of fresh hop bite and aroma. I can imagine based on my experience with the 60 minute, this might not work in the bottle either.

I don't understand it. How can the same beer taste so dramatically different from keg to bottle!? I guess I'm assuming they don't add anything to it for bottling purposes.

I just had this on tap last weekend. Man it is great, I would not call it a sipping beer as I drank two fairly quick, it is super smooth and pretty much the best beer I have had. I'm really curious why it woud suck being bottled, any idea what hops they use?