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BrewinJack

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Type: All Grain
ABV: 5.5% (give or take)
OG: 1.050
FG:1.008
Fermentation Time (Primary): Untill done (roughly 3-4weeks at 65F)
Fermentation Time (Sec) : None
Yeast: Nottingham Dry yeast
Difficulty level: Easy


Taste notes: dry and good apple taste, good strong almost burning carbination, pleasent and refreshing despite this. When still fruit flavor almost over powering. Taste best cold. When served warm carbination more pronounced. Champagne like flavor with more fruity undertone, and less of a kick. Smooth, no burn from ABV present at all. No ageing nessesary. Taste better then a Woodchuck and is much cheaper.


Its simple enough

List:

5 gallons Sams choice apple juice (from concentrate, it contains no preservatives) (2.27$ per 3/4 gallon jug, 15.89$ per 7 bottles)

Pack of Nottingham Ale Yeast (1$-3$ depending on LHBS prices)

1 gallon quality apple juice, i used "Tree Of Life" orgain apple juice. "Simply Apple", apple juice works well too. (for use as priming sugar) (Note you dont need a full gallon of high end apple juice for priming, for a 5 gallon batch 40oz is enough) (7$ - 12$ depending on quality and price)

1) 5 gallon carboy, bucket or prefered fermenting vessal

Total Price max (without cost of fermenting vessal): roughly 30.00$

Price per bottle: .60$ (with a yeild of 50, 12oz bottles)

Pro:

Add 5 gallons of juice to carboy, shake each throughly before adding to fermenter, then shake fermenter after all juice afterward to allow good Oxagenation

Add Nottingham, shake fermenter for good measure (not required). Will take 2-4 days for yeast to start due to high ammount of Vitimin C which is already present in juice.

Let ferment... wait...(note: ferment in the dark, did a small batch which fermented on the counter in the light, final tasted buttery and rancid)

(the juice will ferment completely clear during most stages of fermentation due to the fact that the Sam's Choice juice is so heavily filtered it will not require Secondary fermentation to clear or other additives. The final product will be so clear you could almost mistake it for white wine.

When fermentation complete rack to bottling bucket, read nutrient facts for priming juice for sugar content:

I use "Tree of Life" apple juice which contains 30g of sugar per 8oz (1 cup) serving. That is roughly one ounce (2 grams over) of sugar per cup. Im not picky and i like a little extra fizz so i added 5 cups for a total of 40oz of juice. Gave 5 quick stirs with a slotted spoon, then bottled.

Let sit in bottle for 1 week before tasting, should be fully carbed by then if not just wait will carb well on its own.

End

I personally have done this for well over 25 gallons of this stright juice cider. The only down side is you'll always want to keep a batch going and a couple of cases on hand. Works well as pain reliever because the ABV goes stright to your head because of the heavy carbination. I have personally drank 8 bottles in one night and found that the drunkeness provided is heavy but the same weather one has 4 bottles or 8 bottles. I have yet to have a hangover from it providing properly hydrated before going to sleep.

Warning: You will need to pee, the heavy ammounts of Vitimin C which Sams Choice adds to the juice (roughly 100mg per 8oz serving) increase the dieretic effects of the drink to a near system flush proportion. This is why after a certin ammount you never seem to get any drunker. Great if you have a drug test the next day, but then again you'll just get busted for acohal rather then anything your flushing out, you wont get fired though.

Cheers
 
First, it looks like the Sam's Choice has maltodextrin in it. Is this a recent addition, and will this harm the brewing process?

Second, could honey be used instead of apple juice for a priming sugar? Corn sugar? Other juices?

Thanks - this looks good!
 
First, it looks like the Sam's Choice has maltodextrin in it. Is this a recent addition, and will this harm the brewing process?

Second, could honey be used instead of apple juice for a priming sugar? Corn sugar? Other juices?

Thanks - this looks good!

I never knew if sams choice has maltodextrein in it, i never it may account for some of the flavors i taste in it, but it doesnt hurt the brewing process at all.

You can use any thype of sugar you want to prime, just use the rule of thumb of 1 oz per gallon of brew. You may prefer the apple juice though because the limited apple taste left in the brew after fermenting. Useing the better higher quality of apple juice to prime puts some of it back in, So i would sugest useing a high quality apple juice, but yes sugar wroks.

Honey is unpredictable, and it carbs very slow and leaves the juice sweeter and i like it the way it comes out. Its good stuff, i would sugest trying it the way i said it above, you wont be sorry.

Cheers
 
Okay, made it tonight. I used honey as an added sugar / sweetener. Hope it will turn out well. For fermentation, I will use the organic apple juice you recommend, or something like it. Thanks again!
 
Okay, made it tonight. I used honey as an added sugar / sweetener. Hope it will turn out well. For fermentation, I will use the organic apple juice you recommend, or something like it. Thanks again!

How much honey did you add? I mean if you added alot of honey then you OG will be quite high and your fermentation time will go up greatly depending on the added honey. You have made cyser, not a simple strait juice cider. Sorry i have never done that so i don't know what your final product. Good luck.

cheers
 
2 cups of honey, which is 24 oz, or about 1.5 lbs. I also used Red Star Pasteur Champagne Yeast, so it should be an interesting result.

As long as it tastes acceptable, I am fine :)

I plan to carbonate with honey, and go with 1 oz per gallon of brew, as you recommend, or slightly less than 1/2 cup of honey.

Thanks again!
 
2 cups of honey, which is 24 oz, or about 1.5 lbs. I also used Red Star Pasteur Champagne Yeast, so it should be an interesting result.

As long as it tastes acceptable, I am fine :)

I plan to carbonate with honey, and go with 1 oz per gallon of brew, as you recommend, or slightly less than 1/2 cup of honey.

Thanks again!

you may want to rethink that, honey carbs slowly, because it is much slower to ferment then regular sugar. It also sweetens the brew because not all of the sugar in honey is fermentable. Becareful, read the neutrient facts on the back of the honey you carb with (that is if your useing honey which has nutrient facts on it) to get an accurate measurement of the sugar that is contained in your honey. Also be prepared to wait longer for it to carb. but already your looking at a much longer fermentation time then i said in the orginal recipe, and a differnt flavor profile. You are useing a champagne yeast, and have boosted your OG by probably 25-30 points off the bat, think wont be ready for sevral months... good luck, you might get another fermenter and start a batch the perscribe way for comparision, or maybe some edworts apfelwien, thats good stuff too.

Cheers
 
I started a batch of this last night and have a question. How much krausen forms on top of the juice. I used a 5 gal. better beer bottle and their is not much head space. I know that apfelwien with monoratchet yeast doesn't make much krausen, but what about the nottingham?

Thanks,
 
you may want to rethink that, honey carbs slowly, because it is much slower to ferment then regular sugar. It also sweetens the brew because not all of the sugar in honey is fermentable. Becareful, read the neutrient facts on the back of the honey you carb with (that is if your useing honey which has nutrient facts on it) to get an accurate measurement of the sugar that is contained in your honey. Also be prepared to wait longer for it to carb. but already your looking at a much longer fermentation time then i said in the orginal recipe, and a differnt flavor profile. You are useing a champagne yeast, and have boosted your OG by probably 25-30 points off the bat, think wont be ready for sevral months... good luck, you might get another fermenter and start a batch the perscribe way for comparision, or maybe some edworts apfelwien, thats good stuff too.

Cheers


Thank you for the advice - it is greatly appreciated. :)
 
Also, I started getting fermentation bubbles yesterday afternoon. It started faster than I expected.
 
I am assuming that it is okay to bottle this in regular beer bottles. This is my first batch and it is ready to bottle. Do I need to be concerned about the carbination levels?
Thanks,
 
hey brewinjack,
this is my first post so bear with me please. great looking recipe. im new to brewing anything and i have a couple questions:

1. why not use the high quality apple juice for the whole batch? too expensive? too much sugar?

2. i live in an area where there are a lot of apple orchards and fresh apple cider is available all over the place. could i substitute this apple cider instead of the store-bought juice? i know to make sure it has no preservatives. if so, would you still use a high quality store-bought juice for the priming?

3. if you think the cider is a bad idea, maybe use the sams choice for the first fermentation then real apple cider for the primer? it may be hard to tell sugar content of this local cider as there are probably no nutrition facts on the label.

thanks for the help!
 
Nice ... I like the simple approach. But no yeast nutrient? I'd only assume that if you added nutrient the %alc would go up and the cider would be dryer. I am still brewing my first batch of cider so clearly I have no experience with this.
 
Mine fermented to 1.008, but it certainly isnt 'clear.' Bottling tomorrow hopefully! I tasted it, and it has a nice apple taste to it even now, but im hoping the juice i use to prime with (not sure yet..) adds to it!
 
Just finished making my first batch of this a few minutes ago. A few variations. Disolved 1 pound of dark brown sugar into one of the quarts in a saucepan. Cooled this and added it half way through pouring in the rest of the juice. Used Safale-05 yeast. I think I may split it after primary. Juice carb half and put the other half on fresh frozen blueberries in a secondary.
 
I was curious if anyone knows how this recipe will work out with Safale S-04 instead of the recommended Nottingham. Just curious, because I would like to try this and I have an extra packet of S-04 on order.

Thanks in advance.
 
I was curious if anyone knows how this recipe will work out with Safale S-04 instead of the recommended Nottingham. Just curious, because I would like to try this and I have an extra packet of S-04 on order.

Thanks in advance.

Its been awhile since I checked this site. Dark yeah, S-04 isa great yeast and will work just fine. Notingham is just most often the pick of the litter of dry cider yeast.

Drink them in good health
 
A few questions.

1. Can I get away without using yeast nutrient?

2. I'm going to make two batches, one normal and one "strong." I'm wantin to make this puppy as alcoholic as I can with it still tasting good. How much sugar can I add and get away with? Also should it be regular or
brown sugar? I have Nottingham, sf-04, white wine, and champagne yeast. Thoughts?
 
I just finished bottling a 6G batch of this. I accidentally bought Wyeast 4632 dry mead instead of 4766 (someone put it in the cider yeast section at AHS) and the uncarbed bit I sampled today tasted fantastic. It fermented down to roughly .995 (I'm still having trouble getting my hydrometer to stay still) and fermentation was really fast, I only saw bubbles for maybe three days and it was perfectly still the last week. I can't wait until it gets a little age on it.
 
I bottled a batch of this last week, for being such a simple recipe it's very good. It's extremely drinkable and light cider. I have a feeling this will become a bit of a staple around here, SWMBO loves it.
 
New guy here... been reading this forum anonymously for weeks though...

Got a batch of this fermenting as we speak... used Mott's apple juice, as it is my favorite blend of juice to drink and contains no preservatives... and Nottingham yeast...
Going to start a second batch tonight with a few variations...
add 2 cups of sugar and some yeast nutrient to boost ABV a bit...
Red Star Champagne Yeast (it's what I have on hand, and will also boost ABV)
This will ferment very dry... which I personally prefer... but was going to use cane sugar to prime and add some xylitol to sweeten a bit (so my wife will drink it)... but I think I'm going to prime with high quality apple juice as you've suggested. As a novice, I suppose that was too obvious to think of myself.

My goal is obviously to create a stronger cider that is pleasant to drink, so that my wife and our friends will also enjoy it.

Also... will a simple recipe like this require any type of yeast stoppage? Or can I just bottle it and keep it or give it without worry?
 
New guy here... been reading this forum anonymously for weeks though...

Got a batch of this fermenting as we speak... used Mott's apple juice, as it is my favorite blend of juice to drink and contains no preservatives... and Nottingham yeast...
Going to start a second batch tonight with a few variations...
add 2 cups of sugar and some yeast nutrient to boost ABV a bit...
Red Star Champagne Yeast (it's what I have on hand, and will also boost ABV)
This will ferment very dry... which I personally prefer... but was going to use cane sugar to prime and add some xylitol to sweeten a bit (so my wife will drink it)... but I think I'm going to prime with high quality apple juice as you've suggested. As a novice, I suppose that was too obvious to think of myself.

My goal is obviously to create a stronger cider that is pleasant to drink, so that my wife and our friends will also enjoy it.

Also... will a simple recipe like this require any type of yeast stoppage? Or can I just bottle it and keep it or give it without worry?

No not really,I normally let it ferment till it stops, it turns out pretty dry. I did a couple of batches where i cold crashed it by bringing the temp of the juice down to around 40 degrees over one night. Everything fell out of solution and had no yeast activity.

I did eventully find out i had some potential bottle granades with this recipe, so just be aware that your fermentation is complete before bottleing and double check your math when you add the priming sugar (weather in juice form or as sugar)

Cheers
 
Rock on... thanks for the reply... think I'm going to go with the 1oz of sugar per gallon ratio and see how that goes. I'm really hoping I can find a nice balance between strength and flavor... don't tell me wife... but I'm looking at kegs and force carbonation... lol!
 
I almost feel that I should earn my stripes without the keg first...
It can only make me better in the long run...
I think I just need more carboys... heh!
get this beginner's experimentation phase licked... and get to the goods...
 
I've never used a starter with notty(dry), always works out great. Just make sure you give your fermentor a good shake before pitching.
 
I've never used a starter with notty(dry), always works out great. Just make sure you give your fermentor a good shake before pitching.

Sound good. And If I'm just doing 1 gal should I use 1/5 a pack of Nottingham dry? And how long does a pack of dry yeast last once opened?
 
Made this last night, started moving and shaking this morning. Used Sams Club Apple Juice, Nottingham Yeast, & Yeast Nutrient. SG was 1.051. Looking forward to trying this, its my 3rd attempt at cider...

I let my Nottingham sit for about 1/2 hour in warm water prior to pitching.
 
This is awesome! I brew my first beer Saturday. I was thinking of brewing a second the same day but this recipe sounds too easy to pass up!

Cheers,
 

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