Specialty IPA: Rye IPA Denny Conn's Wry Smile Rye IPA

eddie · Oct 16, 2008

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Recipe: Denny Conn's Wry Smile Rye IPA
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Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.41 gal
Estimated OG: 1.073
Estimated FG: 1.013
Estimated Color: 12.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 63.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
11 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 67.69 %
3 lbs Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 18.46 %
1.25 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 7.69 %
8.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.08 %
8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.08 %
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 39.3 IBU
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (Dry Hop) Hops -
1.00 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (FWH) Hops 16.8 IBU
0.50 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (30 min) Hops 6.5 IBU
1.50 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (Flameout) Hops 1.1 IBU
1.00 tsp Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc

Recommended Yeast Selection In Order Of Preference:
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1 Pkgs Denny's Favorite 50 (Wyeast WY2450PC)/Brewtek CL-50 Yeast-Ale
1 Pkgs American Ale II (Wyeast Labs #1272) Yeast-Ale
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale
1 Pkgs SafAle US-05 (Fermentis #US-05) Yeast-Ale

Single infusion mash 60mins@153F.

Denny · Jun 1, 2009

Just wanted to add that if you use liquid yeast for this, make a 2-3 qt. starter.

kedash · Oct 5, 2009

Denny, in eddie's post above, it states SG as 1.085. Isn't 1.071 to 1.073 the correct figure?

I've read the lower figures in other places on the Internet and I got 1.071 when I brewed 10 gallons of this on
Saturday.

Thanks,
Dan

Denny · Oct 7, 2009

Yep, 1.073 is spot on. That's what I got on the batch I've got dry hopping right now.

greenbirds · Oct 8, 2009

This is a pretty famous recipe. I'm brewing it up for my first time soon, already have the ingredients. I had been looking at a few rye IPA recipes, but was persuaded to do this one when I found a 52 (yes, 52) page thread devoted to this beer that started in 2005 and is still active.

Adam78K · Oct 14, 2009

can anyone convert this to a total of 12lbs of grains so I can stovetop brew this?

Denny · Oct 14, 2009

It can't be done and keep it the same beer.

bkov · Oct 14, 2009

if you could do 9.25lb partial mash, this might not be the same but this should be close i would guess

4lbs 2row
3 lbs Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 18.46 %
1.25 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L
8.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine
8.0 oz Wheat Malt

enough light dme to reach correct gravity(probably 4lbs or so but use brewbuilder to find out exact amount)

Adam78K · Oct 15, 2009

nm just ended up making a Mashtun. So no conversion is needed.

Limited Visibility · Dec 3, 2009

Adam78K said:
nm just ended up making a Mashtun. So no conversion is needed.

Thats the way to go!!! :mug:

gonzo brewer · Dec 10, 2009

I am brewing this tomorrow and I can't decide whather to use WLP051 or US-05. So I am using both!!! I'll picth a 1 liter starter of the WLP051 at the same time as hydrated US-05. I'll post back in 7-8 weeks.

Denny · Dec 11, 2009

Get some WY1450 and brew it right!

greenbirds · Dec 11, 2009

I made my first batch of this recipe and split WY1450 and WLP051 between 2 carboys. We'll see what happens.

kedash · Dec 11, 2009

Denny said:
Get some WY1450 and brew it right!

What he said!

I did and I LOVE LOVE LOVE this beer!

Denny · Dec 11, 2009

Starting in Feb., WY1450 Denny's Favorite will be available as a full time Wyeast strain.

Buffman · Dec 11, 2009

Denny said:
Starting in Feb., WY1450 Denny's Favorite will be available as a full time Wyeast strain.

Great news! I brewed it as my first AG this year and had to use American II. I'll try it again with 1450. Thanks for the recipe.

greenbirds · Dec 11, 2009

Denny said:
Starting in Feb., WY1450 Denny's Favorite will be available as a full time Wyeast strain.

Hell yeah! I emailed them a while back expressing my love for this strain, and I know I'm not the only one. Really glad to hear.

kedash · Dec 11, 2009

Denny said:
Starting in Feb., WY1450 Denny's Favorite will be available as a full time Wyeast strain.

Excellent!

Brandx40 · Feb 3, 2010

Just brewed a batch of this beer on Sunday. After reading all the reviews and posts on Northern Brewer I am totally jacked up on it! :ban:

Its bubbling away nicely and I can't wait. I'm anticipating a great brew. I hit all the numbers, OG came in at 1.074. I could only get my hands on Safale 05 though... Depending on how much I like it, I may have to brew it again with Denny's yeast for comparison's sake.

brrman · May 20, 2010

My 1450 starter is on the stirplate... Gonna be a good brewing weekend!

Dave46382 · Jun 5, 2010

Assist me with my schedule/timing:

21 days in the "primary" carboy then, being very mindful of sanitation (and needing the carboy) I racked to a secondary. Been in the secondary carboy 7 days. Haven't added the final hops per the instructions.

What would be a good time in the secondary and then ultimately to the corny?

mb2696 · Jun 5, 2010

no reason to age this one...

i've made it a few times and i like it best fresh - mine is usually on tap about a month after brew day. get it on the dry hops now and toss some in the serving keg when you rack too. i've done 1 oz per 5 gal dry-hop in secondary for 2 weeks and 1 oz in the serving keg with great results...

Denny · Jun 7, 2010

I'd dry hop it now, wait a couple weeks, keg it (I add more dry hops there, too) and drink ASAP!

jloxton · Jun 10, 2010

Wondering about the units in this recipe. When I enter it in Beersmith (assuming 5 US gallons) I get about 1.085 OG, as the original poster did. When I convert it to 5 UK gallons, e.g., 6 US gallons, I get about 1.073, as Denny states. Most of the iterations I have seen, including those posted by Denny, call for 5 gallons. I want to get this right. Am I right in assuming that the recipe is constructed using UK gallons? Or am I missing something?

Cheers!

Jason

mb2696 · Jun 10, 2010

depends on what efficiency the recipe is calculated for. i shoot for 1.073 when i make it

jloxton · Jun 10, 2010

Well, unless I am seriously screwing up the math somewhere, the recipe *needs* to be 6 gallons to come in at 1.073 with 16.25 pounds of grain and a ~73% efficiency. But, I can't find any discussion anywhere online where someone notes that the recipe is calibrated to UK gallons, i.e., that it should be 6 US gallons, which seems odd (if I am correct) given how often it is brewed. I am perplexed. What volume do people here normally aim for?

The 1.073/73% I got straight from Denny here: http://www.tastybrew.com/forum/thread/76127 (see below)

Batch Size (GAL): 5.00 Wort Size (GAL): 5.00
Total Grain (LBS): 16.25
Anticipated OG: 1.073 Plato: 17.8
Anticipated SRM: 12.2
Anticipated IBU: 75.1
Brewhouse Efficiency: 73 %
Wort Boil Time: 70 Minutes

67.7 11.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
18.5 3.00 lbs. Rye Malt America 1.030 4
7.7 1.25 lbs. Crystal 60L America 1.034 60
3.1 0.50 lbs. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt 1.033 2
3.1 0.50 lbs. Wheat Malt America 1.038 2

When I run those numbers it just doesn't work out.

jloxton · Jun 10, 2010

Correction: You can 1.073 with 5 US gallons, if you assume 65% efficiency, but elsewhere online Denny notes that he "typically get ~~75-80% efficiency" from his batch sparge set up.~~

jloxton · Jun 10, 2010

Answered my own question: Here Denny specifically notes that the recipe is calculated for 65% efficiency, so US gallons it is. (Weird that he uses a lower efficiency than he claims to get off his system...) http://hbd.org/discus/messages/15516/14501.html?1046703590

jloxton · Jun 10, 2010

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! (Sorry to be spamming on this one, but it is driving me crazy.) Denny corrects himself in that post and notes that 65% was wrong, he really gets 75%, which brings back the 1.085 OG on US gallons. Here's a version that uses 6 gallons and the same grain bill: http://www.brew365.com/beer_dennys_rye_ipa.php

mb2696 · Jun 10, 2010

haha...don't worry about it. just enter your estimated efficiency and your desired volume and scale the grain to get 1.073

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