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I've tried many Stouts and i've loved them all but my favorites have always been Guinness (Cliche, I know) and Beamish. The reason for this is the fine head of foam that they retain. Does anyone know what I should add to this recipe if I want to get that kind of head retention that is similar to a Guiness?

3 lbs Light Malt Extract
3 lbs Amber malt extract
3/4 lb Chocolate Malt
.5 lb Black Patent
.5 lb Flaked Oats
.5 lb Crystal
2 oz Chinook @ 60
.5 oz Bullion @ 5
Ale Yeast
 
SkewedAle said:
I've tried many Stouts and i've loved them all but my favorites have always been Guinness (Cliche, I know) and Beamish. The reason for this is the fine head of foam that they retain. Does anyone know what I should add to this recipe if I want to get that kind of head retention that is similar to a Guiness?

3 lbs Light Malt Extract
3 lbs Amber malt extract
3/4 lb Chocolate Malt
.5 lb Black Patent
.5 lb Flaked Oats
.5 lb Crystal
2 oz Chinook @ 60
.5 oz Bullion @ 5
Ale Yeast

You just won't get it from a recipe, because the beer is pushed with beer gas to get that creamy head.

You can add wheat for head retention but it won't be creamy like Guinness.
 
SkewedAle said:
I've tried many Stouts and i've loved them all but my favorites have always been Guinness (Cliche, I know) and Beamish. The reason for this is the fine head of foam that they retain. Does anyone know what I should add to this recipe if I want to get that kind of head retention that is similar to a Guiness?

3 lbs Light Malt Extract
3 lbs Amber malt extract
3/4 lb Chocolate Malt
.5 lb Black Patent
.5 lb Flaked Oats
.5 lb Crystal
2 oz Chinook @ 60
.5 oz Bullion @ 5
Ale Yeast
nitrogen...
 
Wait! you can imitate that head. not that you'll get the same, but will be certainly better that nothing!

this is what I do:
brew a beer with good head retention (stout in this case).
naturally carbonate to low level (1.5 to 1.8 vol ONLY) you'll be priming with a ridiculously small amount of sugar, no problem!
buy a 10 ml. a syringe

serve the beer as usual, but minimize foaming. If any, let it sit a couple of minuts
load your syringe with beer+air (thick foam visible inside it)
inject it back into the beer suddenly (syringe tip should be as near to the bottom as possible)

here you have! guinnes/boddington's/beamish like head instantly!

caveats: put your glass in a bowl, the first times you'll get overfoaming and loose some beer. drink it from the bowl :D and calibrate your injection hahahaha!

wanna try right now?
take any HB you have (with good head retention) pour it in a glass and let it sit for a while 'till it releases some Co2 and follow the instructions. USE a BOWL to save beer/avoid mess!!!

Why this works?
because air is 78% nitrogen (and 21 % Oxygen, but O2 is unimportant here because you don't let beer oxydize in your glass)
 
m_f said:
Wait! you can imitate that head. not that you'll get the same, but will be certainly better that nothing!

this is what I do:
brew a beer with good head retention (stout in this case).
naturally carbonate to low level (1.5 to 1.8 vol ONLY) you'll be priming with a ridiculously small amount of sugar, no problem!
buy a 10 ml. a syringe

serve the beer as usual, but minimize foaming. If any, let it sit a couple of minuts
load your syringe with beer+air (thick foam visible inside it)
inject it back into the beer suddenly (syringe tip should be as near to the bottom as possible)

here you have! guinnes/boddington's/beamish like head instantly!

caveats: put your glass in a bowl, the first times you'll get overfoaming and loose some beer. drink it from the bowl :D and calibrate your injection hahahaha!

wanna try right now?
take any HB you have (with good head retention) pour it in a glass and let it sit for a while 'till it releases some Co2 and follow the instructions. USE a BOWL to save beer/avoid mess!!!

Why this works?
because air is 78% nitrogen (and 21 % Oxygen, but O2 is unimportant here because you don't let beer oxydize in your glass)
i might have to grab some syringes from the lab on my way out tonight and try this "trick" at home....
 
Lou said:
i might have to grab some syringes from the lab on my way out tonight and try this "trick" at home....

this might sound gross, but....

I just take a big pull from my stout, swish it around in my mouth to foam it up and then literally jet-force spit it back into the glass. I get a thick, dense head out of it this way.

If I were pouring for someone else, I would use a syringe or something, but it's just me so I spit in it. :D

-walker
 
That's an ... interesting technique, Walker
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Strangely enough, I have yet to brew a stout, but for my porter, I server about half way up the glass or so, and then close the tap nearly all the way, which creates some nice fine foam. Not exactly what you'd get from a proper stout faucet with beer gas, but it's works fairly well.

Beer gas and a stout facet are probably the only way to reproduce it "properly" though.
 
Imperial Walker said:
this might sound gross, but....

I just take a big pull from my stout, swish it around in my mouth to foam it up and then literally jet-force spit it back into the glass. I get a thick, dense head out of it this way.

If I were pouring for someone else, I would use a syringe or something, but it's just me so I spit in it. :D

-walker
:mug: :mug: :mug:
now that's even simpler!
hahahaha
 
get a cheap ebay ultra sonic jewelry cleaner and sit your pint in it, run it for a few seconds until you have the creamy head... that's all the surger thing is.. from what i understand the beer doesn't absorb any nitrogen.. its just used to force the beer through restrictor plate/widget to get the tiny bubbles.
 
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