Method to install element

Pdaigle · Dec 6, 2016

Ive seen different ways to install element and the one i really like is the one with the integrated plug. Ive already bought the elements now can I install that plug. Attached is what I want to have.

Cheers

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72Chevelle · Dec 6, 2016

the exact one you pictured looks to be a built in unit

http://www.brew-boss.com/ULWD-L6-30...e-Heater-Element-p/htr-5500-ripple-l6-30p.htm

Not sure if you could return the element you have or sell it but it really isn't a bad price on this.

BrunDog · Dec 6, 2016

Go to brewhardware.com.

Pdaigle · Dec 7, 2016

72Chevelle said:
the exact one you pictured looks to be a built in unit

http://www.brew-boss.com/ULWD-L6-30...e-Heater-Element-p/htr-5500-ripple-l6-30p.htm

Not sure if you could return the element you have or sell it but it really isn't a bad price on this.

So its impossible to install a l6-30p plug to an element?

Dfitz · Dec 7, 2016

Pdaigle said:
So its impossible to install a l6-30p plug to an element?

Is the socket what your looking for?
https://www.mcmaster.com/#electrical-plugs-and-receptacles/=15d61oa

Pdaigle · Dec 7, 2016

Dfitz said:
Is the socket what your looking for?
https://www.mcmaster.com/#electrical-plugs-and-receptacles/=15d61oa

Would I be able in install a plug on the element or this wouldn't be legal?

golfindia · Dec 7, 2016

Other than "bling" I don't see why one would need both a triclover adapter AND a plug on the element. Too many unnecessary expensive L6-30P connections, but that's just me.

Pdaigle · Dec 7, 2016

golfindia said:
Other than "bling" I don't see why one would need both a triclover adapter AND a plug on the element. Too many unnecessary expensive L6-30P connections, but that's just me.

I found that installing the element withing a electrical box is too much and when it come to clean it seems harder compare to this you just remove the trip clamp and remove the elements.

I found this so I guess is it possible, just need the right parts:
https://brewhaequipment.com/blogs/h...new-100-stainless-brewha-ulwd-heating-element
https://brewhaequipment.com/collections/extras/products/electric-water-heating-element

augiedoggy · Dec 7, 2016

Pdaigle said:
Ive seen different ways to install element and the one i really like is the one with the integrated plug. Ive already bought the elements now can I install that plug. Attached is what I want to have.

Cheers

like this one? (scroll down on the page)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...62175659.html?spm=a2700.7724838.30.260.wVmlxj

bobby also sells them at brewhardware.com but they are $75 plus shipping there. I dont know what the difference is between the two chinese made elements but I would like to know.

I just used one of his hotpod enclosures for $9 and added small pigtail with the correct 20a nema plug for my 18amp 4500w elements on the end myself. I dont remove my element and dont see the need too since its all stainless and easily wipes clean in the kettle (ULWD is much easier to clean than LWD or HWD.)

Pdaigle · Dec 7, 2016

Looks like what i need can be found here but no connectors for the plug

https://m.alibaba.com/product/60498...V.html?spm=a2706.7835515.1998800312.28.pkmOyo

augiedoggy · Dec 7, 2016

Pdaigle said:
Looks like what i need can be found here but no connectors for the plug

https://m.alibaba.com/product/60498...V.html?spm=a2706.7835515.1998800312.28.pkmOyo

that link is not working.

GreenMonti · Dec 7, 2016

Link works for me

Looks like the elements with the plug prongs directly on them are just pins for the male plug portion to attach. Of course it's a special piece.

The brewhaequipment links look like the still dragon enclosure.

Pdaigle · Dec 8, 2016

now when I look at this element Im wondering if I can just buy the white/gray tip to connect to my element so I can plug it. take a look at this :

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/ultra-low-watt-density-brewery-electric_60362175659.html

scroll down to close look

Pdaigle · Dec 8, 2016

augiedoggy said:
that link is not working.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Stainless-Steel-brewers-hardware-240V-5500W_60476863660.html

Pdaigle · Dec 8, 2016

this look like what I need but its missing the plug tip attach to the end of the element right?

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Stainless-Steel-brewers-hardware-240V-5500W_60476863660.html

augiedoggy · Dec 8, 2016

Pdaigle said:
this look like what I need but its missing the plug tip attach to the end of the element right?

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Stainless-Steel-brewers-hardware-240V-5500W_60476863660.html

Yes that would work. the cord would be attached to the element though.

Pdaigle · Dec 8, 2016

augiedoggy said:
Yes that would work. the cord would be attached to the element though.

Yes and plugged. I know. Would be legal in north america

Dfitz · Dec 9, 2016

augiedoggy said:
like this one? (scroll down on the page)

http://www.alibaba.com/product-deta...62175659.html?spm=a2700.7724838.30.260.wVmlxj

After communicating back and forth all evening I was able to find that these are only available to fit a 2" ferrule. A bit disappointing at $10 a piece as my two boilers have 1-1/2" ferrules but I'll be ordering a larger 50 gal. spikes pot in Feb.

I like the idea of being able to remove the element for cleaning. I'm constantly digging crap out of the element that I'm currently using plus I like the twist lock connection and the ability to hang up my cables out of the way when not in use.

Pdaigle · Dec 9, 2016

Dfitz said:
After communicating back and forth all evening I was able to find that these are only available to fit a 2" ferrule. A bit disappointing at $10 a piece as my two boilers have 1-1/2" ferrules but I'll be ordering a larger 50 gal. spikes pot in Feb.

I like the idea of being able to remove the element for cleaning. I'm constantly digging crap out of the element that I'm currently using plus I like the twist lock connection and the ability to hang up my cables out of the way when not in use.

Thats where i got this from spike brewing. I might just buy the herm system

augiedoggy · Dec 9, 2016

Dfitz said:
After communicating back and forth all evening I was able to find that these are only available to fit a 2" ferrule. A bit disappointing at $10 a piece as my two boilers have 1-1/2" ferrules but I'll be ordering a larger 50 gal. spikes pot in Feb.

I like the idea of being able to remove the element for cleaning. I'm constantly digging crap out of the element that I'm currently using plus I like the twist lock connection and the ability to hang up my cables out of the way when not in use.

It doesnt look like a 2" ferrule? I havent installed any tc fitting on my kettle yet though... They were a bit more for me in this configuration....$16 figures because now that I inquired and placed an order the price went from $3-10 on that link to $25-30 overnight and they updated the pictures...Hmm (I still have the original page and the3 new one open in my browser and the link is identical) at that price with shipping they would be like $40-50 each... I really hope one of the resellers didnt go to them and complain about undercutting. It more likely that a bunch of people saw my posts and contacted them in the last day or two..

I wonder if the forum would allow us to take orders in a thread for a massive group purchase... they are $14 each when ordering 100 or more. I dont know if it would violate any rules. especially with vendors selling them for $75 each here...Any mods reading this that could let me know?

augiedoggy · Dec 9, 2016

Pdaigle said:
Yes and plugged. I know. Would be legal in north america

I wasnt talking about legalities... I was mentioning it because when you remove the element and carry it to whereever you clean it after each brewing session you will have a cord attached... after using one for years I just want to be able to remove the cord... removing the element is not important in my configuration. I clean it in the kettle. plus I could use the extra spcae where my element enclosure currently dictates where my kettle sits on my brew stand.

If you just going that route you have a lot of options... like this one
https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/hotpod-ewl.htm

Its what I have on my current setup although even if you buy a $30 all stainless element your going to be at over $50 total so the one you linked would be better.

augiedoggy · Dec 9, 2016

GreenMonti said:
Link works for me

Looks like the elements with the plug prongs directly on them are just pins for the male plug portion to attach. Of course it's a special piece.

The brewhaequipment links look like the still dragon enclosure.

It just worked for me now too. It was down. then I just tried it again and I get 404 page...

srice · Dec 9, 2016

augiedoggy said:
It doesnt look like a 2" ferrule? look at the size of the plug in reference. They were a bit more for me in this configuration....$16 figures because now that I inquired and placed an order the price went from $3-10 on that link to $25-30 overnight and they updated the pictures...Hmm at that price with shipping they would be like $40-50 each...

I wonder if the forum would allow us to take orders in a thread for a massive group purchase... they are $14 each when ordering 100 or more. I dont know if it would violate any rules. especially with vendors selling them for $75 each here...

If this element can be purchased with a 1.5" TC, I would be in for 3 of them @$15ish each.

Pdaigle · Dec 9, 2016

srice said:
If this element can be purchased with a 1.5" TC, I would be in for 3 of them @$15ish each.

are those cheap element they sell on Alibaba worth it? is it good quality? I something worry when something is sold cheap especially when investing a lot of money in a home brewery and do not want to screw **** up

augiedoggy · Dec 9, 2016

Pdaigle said:
are those cheap element they sell on Alibaba worth it? is it good quality? I something worry when something is sold cheap especially when investing a lot of money in a home brewery and do not want to screw **** up

I am willing to bet they are the same quality as the chinese elements being resold for much more by US resellers. many of the reseller here order much of thier stuff from Alibaba I have found and shown that in many threads.... you can even find glacier and stout conicals up there since the manufactuers will sell to anyone who places a large order. They look to be good quality. I will let you know when I receive mine. I'm not making any spacific claims here but in general, resellers love guys with your attitude ... If they charge more people just assume its better whether it is or not. ironically it effects reviews too... I seen a study where they sold the same product at two pricepoints and the one sold for more money actually got better reviews.. its all about perception.

Pdaigle · Dec 9, 2016

srice said:
If this element can be purchased with a 1.5" TC, I would be in for 3 of them @$15ish each.

1.5" is the round plate so you can clamp both end with the trip clamp? that would be perfect and good price too. let me know if you find some for that price.

$75 on http://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/element5500_ripple_tc.htm

augiedoggy · Dec 9, 2016

Pdaigle said:
1.5" is the round plate so you can clamp both end with the trip clamp? that would be perfect and good price too. let me know if you find some for that price.

$75 on http://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/element5500_ripple_tc.htm

Yes its like one seller set the bar at this $75 pricepoint so the others have followed... I guess I dont blame them... why have to sell 20 a week when you can make just as much selling 10... less overhead and work as long as theres no one else with better pricing on the same or comparable product youve got it made.. I dont know, Just about everything else sold there has always been very reasonably priced from what I've found... Who knows maybe theres something I dont know here I'm trying not to be quick to make assumptions here but its a drastic difference to ignore...maybe there is some unsaid price setting rule and sellers dont like to undercut each other IDK I can only wait for my elements to arrive.

Pdaigle · Dec 9, 2016

augiedoggy said:
yes one seller set the bar at this $75 pricepoint so the others have followed... I guess I dont blame them... why have to sell 20 a week when you can make just as much selling 10... less overhead and work. Just about everything else sold there has always been very reasonably priced from what I've found... Who knows maybe theres something I dont know here.. I can only wait for my elements to arrive.

I already have 2 camco elements 5500W, what I would like is just the pin L6-30P but havent found anywhere, not even I can get that to install

augiedoggy · Dec 9, 2016

Pdaigle said:
I already have 2 camco elements 5500W, what I would like is just the pin L6-30P but havent found anywhere, not even I can get that to install

Are they the camcos sold for homebrewing though? if not I had the same ones.. the ones sold at hardware stores all have nickel plated steel bases that quickly start rusting in your kettle... You want one with a stainless base .. they will be marketed as such and priced higher for the brewing market. The regular camcos are sold as stainless but they omit that the base is not.

you can easily wire up any 25A connector to a cord to power these... I use speakon connectors myself. there are 25a aviation connectors as well.. even waterproof ones (I bought one to wire onto my hotpod but it would stick off my kettle too far)

Dfitz · Dec 9, 2016

I found the same thing. When they confirmed my order the price jumped from $10 to $20. I noticed the jump in price as well. I won't need these for a couple months though so I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I bitched about the bait & switch and them doubling the price. I'll wait a bit and see what transpires. $40 is still better than $75.

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