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I'm sorry, I just don't get anything "tropical" from Amarillo. They're just plain tinny/metallic to me.

Wyeast 1098, WLP007 or Conan per Jean-Claude Tetreault himself.

I'm here at work chewing Extra Cinnamon gum and realizing that this has the essence of Pumking.

It's gotta be butter, right?

The aroma of 6277 reminded me of Amarillo but maybe a bit more pungent.

The key to grapefruit I believe is in the zest, not the juice. I soaked the zest of four grapefruits in 300 MLs of vodka for a couple weeks, then I strained and added it to the keg. The grapefruit is certainly present in the flavour and aroma but I would probably just dry hop with it next time.

My substitution order would be... Nugget Delta Cluster Goldings Saaz Tettenang Fuggle

I'm subscribing to this for sure! I was thinking of doing something similar but adding the toasted coconut to the secondary and maybe soaking those little chewy caramel candies in some vodka and maybe extracting the flavor?

1 oz CTZ @ 60 1 oz mosaic @ 30 1 oz mosaic @ 0 Dry hop 2 oz mosaic Dry hop 1 oz CTZ I've used this hop schedule in the past, it turned out amazing. I had a bourbon drinker next to me ask "is that your beer that smells like a pineapple?"

Oh, and sarcasm apparently.

I love the posters that show up only to trash the commercial version. Thanks for your contributions.

Everyone is an expert yet no results.

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Spend some time in the Pumking clone thread and add .5 pounds of midnight wheat or debittered black malt. The key to these beers are the spices. I don't think adding dried spices at 5 minutes gets you there. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/southern-tier-pumking-clone-191381/

I used Trader Joes pumpkin pie spice. I'll never do that again, it was closer to crumb cake than pumpkin pie.

I degassed it, it finished at 1.010.

Why not all three?

Disclaimer: I don't have any concrete evidence. -No graham cracker extract! No! No! No! -Butter flavor is still a possibility. -I highly doubt they mash graham crackers. grain bill is a guess but try a simple amber with 2row C-40 and libbys pumpkin. OG- 1.078 FG-1.013 Bitter with magnum...

Thanks, please report back!

Does it have that Pumking aroma?