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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Wow P-J thank you. You are a legend. I am going to make a quick decision on the heat sinks and get started on this panel in a few weeks. I will post my progress for you guys. Here is the updated schematic with contactors.
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    P-J, Did you ever have an opportunity to modify the schematics to add the contactors? http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...p/SC-E3-110VAC I've spent these last few months building my keg washer and grain mill but I finally have all the parts for this control panel except for the heat sinks...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Thank you for taking the time! I think these contactors would work: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Motor_Controls/Fuji_Contactors_-z-_Overloads/65_to_80_Amp/SC-E3-110VAC I don't see any other changes other than the fact that I will be mounting a fanged receptacle
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Thanks guys this insight is golden. It is helping me consider all the possibilities before getting started. Here is my thinking: In an ideal situation, I would be able to run both the HLT and BK so I could double batch and CIP. I also would love a 4th element in each kettle for faster ramping...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    That's really helpful and you explained it in a way that makes total sense to me. I believe the building has a 5 wire receptacle and I just attached the wrong picture. Once I confirm that the building has this I can go with an L21-30 flanged male receptacle. If not then I can just build the...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    nice. So then I can install a flanged male receptacle and use a 50a 3py power cable to connect to that 50a receptacle in the building. And on the inside of the panel I can go from the receptacle to the DIN breakers. Does that sound like I can do that without any issues? The only issue I see is...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    The building I am looking at has a 50 amp 208v 3 phase receptacle. It would be super convenient and much cheaper if I could somehow modify my original plan for 50 amps. I wouldn't have to hard-wire my panel to the main breaker which results in an electrician and permit pulling. I could just...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Sorry I missed this comment somehow. I haven't checked this thread for awhile. I purchased all the parts but I have not assembled it because I still haven't made up my mind on a few things in the brew process. At the same time I picked up the parts for this panel, I built a 2 element panel for...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Here is PJ's updated Schematic alarming all the PID's. Thanks PJ! I am going to order everything up soon and I'll post progress pics along the way.
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    When I first looked around, I saw some outrageous prices on contactors. Good eyes atoughram finding some killer deals on contactors. It doesn't seem like it would be too impossible to incorporate the contactor(s) and an estop. I assume 1 60a is better than 2 30's at that price and for simplicity...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Thanks PJ for all the time spent on this. I shot you an email with a couple questions on the panel alarm and main supply requirements. What would be the advantage to adding 3 phase contactors if I chose to include them in the design?
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Thank you PJ for any time spent on this. I'll have to figure out how to get batch #1 in your hands somehow. Yes, atoughram. The plan is for a nano in 2015. Hope to have our Brewers Notice submitted by January. Are you in the trade? PM me.
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    A schematic would help me big time. I mapped out my parts but a couple things I'm still scratching my head on. I wanted to do this build without forking out most of my budget to an electrician so I was going to assemble the panel and have an electrician review my work and connect it to the main...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    My math is off I think. I was assuming that 5500w elements would draw 15.28 amps (208 x 1.73 x 15.28amps = 5500). That made me believe that I could get by with a 60A breaker (15.28 x 3 elements / .80 buffer = 58Amps). But is my calculation wrong? I am going to place my order for the 3bbl Stout...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    This clears up a lot of questions. My knowledge is very pedestrian and I was going to have an electrician help me wire it up after I assemble the panel. I am guessing the typical electrician that doesn't brew may have a bit of trouble so the more I can understand the better. Plus I ned to get a...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    I cant seem to find 208vac DIN breakers anywhere. I have looked at all the usual places online. All I see are 240, 277, and 480. Am I missing something? Can anyone point me in the right direction? Another stupid question, based on this design, the PID is controlling 3 elements...
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    3 Phase 208V Control Panel for 3 or 4 Elements

    Hi All, I am trying to plan my control panel build around the 3BBL Stout Electric Kettles and I have been reading a ton of threads around the subject. I seem to have found several designs but none seem to fit my specific needs and have a few unanswered questions. My building has 208v 3 phase...
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