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I am getting ready to finish our basement. Included will be a bar/entertaining area. The bar will be roughly 10' long to the outside, with the back counter w/sink (parallel to the bar) being around 7' long with a fridge (3') at one end, so again, roughly 10' total. I am looking for ideas...

No help now, but buy a cheap digital one from the grocery store next time you are there. <$10. It's all I use anymore - it doesn't float but all it takes is about 10 seconds to get a reading anyway.

I'd think the opposite. If your normal bottles has 2 volumes of CO2 - Doesn't that just mean that you are effectively dissolving 2 bottles worth of CO2 at normal atmospheric pressure into the beer? That is the amount of CO2 produced from the priming sugar in one bottle of beer. Less beer...

Do you have some sort of stake in WB? I am trying to understand the reason behind the tone of your posts and repeated mis-representation of several points in favor of WB.

Sure, which is why I openly stated their policy the entire time and allowed others to decide on their own, and also never asked anyone else to stop ordering from them.

You can make beer with 50 billion yeast cells, and you can make beer with 150 billion. It is a bit foolish to assume those two options give you the same beer...so I am not sure why you feel the date is arbitrary.

50% of the remaining life of a perishable good is several orders of magnitude more reasonable than 5% of the remaining life. Remaining life = time until expiration date in this case.

The 05s I got were just fine - I think they were dated 2010 or 2011 - as you would normally expect.

To be fair, they did offer to cover the return shipping. Of course, that doesn't include the cost for me to ship something - buy a package/envlope, take to post office / ups for postage, etc, stuff that I can't do efficiently because I mail packages about once a year. In the end, $10 vs the...

Of course I would be, but I don't see how it would be any different than them sending the yeast to me, as a customer, in late May with an expiration date of 5/2009. If there is a set of rules to play by, why would "intention" matter as long as the rules were followed?

For everyone who thinks I am way out of line here - what would your opinion be if I sent back the yeast in late May given it is still within their 60 day return policy. Say they get it late in the day on 5/31. Is that a reasonable action for me to do...I am going by their policy, and the yeast...

Nice touch. Like many others.

^^^ Troll.

lol - good debates can be fun. Maybe I am that wrong - there have certainly been some good points made that I think make for some good advice either way. I'm ready to get on to the beer threads as well. :) I would say that I am a bit surprised at the strong reaction to my OP. Oh well...

That's one way of looking at it. The other is that it is a PITA for me to have to ship something back if I get 2 years old yeast that I might not use for 6 months, and while I absolutely agree that all that WB is required to do per their policy is to offer a refund, I know that I am not...

Entitled? No. I asked for something that made more sense given the situation (imo) and they disagreed. I think it is bad practice for them to send out yeast this old which is my real objection. So throw out the dirty word "entitled" all you want, it isn't even close to be accurate.

Dude - just responding to the nonsense posts, bro.

And meat which seems to be good for about 4 days gets a big red discount sticker on day 3 so the buyer knows they should use it ASAP. Plus they get a discount. Neither of those applied to the yeast purchase.

Nope - nothing other than the usual deal they have on yeast. This is true. :mug:

Alternate thought which I implemented because my logos would be horrible was to make some wooden handles and stain them different colors to match the beer colors. I have a chalkboard to further describe the beer. ....oops...thought I was in DIY - probably not the most helpful, but I'll leave...