FWIW, relative to Martin's question, I've done about six shorter boil brews so far this year and about every other batch is a lager for me, typically using CMC pils @ 1.8L 60 - 70% and Avangard Vienna @ 3.6L 20 - 30 %, maybe a little wheat, carahell or caramunich depending on what I want. I also...