oh, a bit further information. this was an AHS minimash,
Steeped grains at ~155 for 45 minutes 1.5lb 2row, 1lb munich, .5lb caramunich, .5lb crystal 120l,
5lb munich extract, brewvint alcohol boost
hop schedule was 1.5 Hallertau for 60, .5 cascade and .5 hallertau for 15, .5 cascade...