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  1. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    For any new brewers reading this I will reply 1) obviously there wasn’t more than that going into the starter. If about 700 million cells went into the starter that would explain both the time and yield. Strangely enough, that is a median point for yeast calculators 2) One actually can...
  2. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    It finally cleared my 2 liter starter after 4 days. I decanted Into a graduated mason jar. Approximately 10 ml yeast and 50 ml of trub. Per my calculations after a starter the 5 month old yeast yielded 25 billion cells
  3. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    I would like to point out. In brewing we sanitize we don’t sterilize. Sterilization would require an autoclave (pressure cooker) and 350°f dry or 300° wet steam, a pressurized clean room and filtration systems The yeast we pitch win because we pitch several billion cells, they kick off quickly...
  4. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    Brewers Friend pitch rate calculator says if I pitch 1 3 month old pack at 45 billion cells in 2 liters I get 368 Billion cells. If I pitch to packs at 90 billion, I get 409 2 each of 368 is 736 vs 409 if pitched together I could split it adding 2 days to my process or I could spend $7 and...
  5. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    .4 would be 40 percent it wasnt .4 it was .4% which is well .4% and according to the same MoreBeer calculator, it is 0 percent today and according to the lack of activity in my starter, they are correct about the yeast they still sold me at full price
  6. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    I am a little obsessed with my Trippel
  7. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    agreed. I have had great success for non perishables. In fact this order included a March pump Irony is MoreBeer article about generous pitching rates for Belgians https://www.morebeer.com/articles/Belgian_Trappists_Abbey
  8. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    perhaps. my position is as follows 1) I have no interest in investing the time or the DME to make a 3 step starter because someone sold me 2 packs of old yeast. I'm not okay with that. I'm not going to be okay with that. Telling me to be okay with that is not gonna work 2) I'm sure it could...
  9. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    As an update. I did get a refund. And have some yeast coming from a place that guarantees it to be less than 3 months old Unfortunately, They only had one in stock I will step that twice up to get my 590 billion cells
  10. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    36 hours
  11. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    Please don’t tell me how to make my beer..I don’t want to use your pitch rate. I have once, I will never again. I am trying to dial in my Tripel. That doesn’t involve using bad pitch rates. I pitch my Belgians at 1.25. That isn’t a debate, a judgement, or up fo discussion.
  12. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    OK!! thanks for the info! 2 liters then add another 2 liters. there is very little info on steps. I will check a calculator for size, but this will help a lot. I aerate my starters as well. Its my understanding that oxygen is a main ingredient for yeast propagation
  13. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    maybe you could email MoreBeer and offer to pay full price for all their 5 month old yeast that way people who do care wont get it. that is a win win win. I have no interest in pitching a tripel at 35%
  14. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    Damn I read this too late. I was switching from a pound of Munich to a pound of Vienna to dial in. Next time I’ll try omega. Thanks for the tip
  15. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    Ok I found a shop that guarantees 3 month old or younger. Unfortunately they only have 1 Wyeast 1214. Not ideal but I’m running out of choices here How do I make a step starter? By that I mean can I make a 2 liter starter decant and add to another 2 liter starter or does the second starter...
  16. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    Underpitching is a strategy. It’s not one I employ. It is believed that u deep itching can create more esters. My strategy was to over pitch and under oxygenate
  17. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    I liked MoreBeer as well. I will tell you this is the last perishable thing ai buy from the,
  18. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    Well there’s lots of dead yeasties at the bottom not buying that
  19. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    Lots of dead yeast at the bottom of my starter which hasn’t kicked off yet by the way. I guess I’ll buy new yeast somewhere esle. Any recommendations for yeast less than 3 months old? Glad I mill my own grains. If I had crushed grains waiting for yeast. Well never mind
  20. Gregory T

    just received old yeast

    The Best Buy date is June 17th. However per the MoreBeer’s own viability calculator all yeast are dead in 2 days. As mentioned above, I did not pay over $16 for 2 packs to pitch at .35. I paid full price for good yeast and got old junk. My bad for buying Yeast from MoreBeer. Will not happen...
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