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Thats good to know. I have some wheat dme laying around and wasnt sure about using it in a non-wheat starter.... maybe Ill try it now. Anyone have a reason not to use it?

I agree, 24 hours. Iv done it twice with no problems.

I just bottled an Amber with this yeast, so its a little early for me to judge. I will say that the main flavor I got while bottling was sour/tart. Not loving it at the moment, but we'll see.

Its broken for me.:drunk:

I just picked up a 6er at walmart. Im not much of a pils or SA fan, but I thought this was excellent. Right from the first smell to the last drink I was hit in the face with heavy grapefruit. I havent tasted hops in a beer like this before.... very unique IMO.

Any suggestions on a water profile for an American Amber.

I get about 3.5 batches out of a standard BBQ tank with a 185k btu burner. But thats 6 gallons, outside temps in the high 50's and flame at about 40% so Im not wasting gas coming up the sides of the pot. 8 hours on a tank sounds about right..... so I would work on heating the beer faster and...