Does anyone make yeast starters for dry yeast? ive always just rehydrated the yeast for 10-15 mins stir it up a bit and pitch, shes bubblin in 6-12 hours, im thinking of trying one with my batch tommorow im using saflager-23 im too cheap for liquid yeast.
yeast starter with dry yeast?
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Caplan said:
Well, that is not true in all situations. The key to yeast is knowing how much you want to pitch. In most cases, one packet is enough. However, it you have a really big beer or are doing a lager, you will want to up the cell count with a starter.
That being said, dry yeast is so cheap that it is really easier to pitch two packets rather than worry about a starter, IMO.
As for being cheap, . . . with the great quality of dry yeasts on the market today, I think that liquid yeasts are a waste of money in most cases. I use Nottingham a lot and I have been getting into the Safale and Saflager strains. The only time I feel it necessary to purchase liquid yeasts is when I really need a specialized strain.
sheephrdr said:
From what I've been told... The purpose of a starter is to get as many yeastes with good cell walls as possible.
I've heard the dry packs don't need starters, but reason above would still be true.
I use the dry packs too and I do a starter pumping air from an aquarium which is inside a plastic box. I also have a hepa filter on the box. I know that pure oxygen is better, but I'm cheap.
Beermaker
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I prefer a dry yeast for a fast vigorous krausen if I dont have a starter.
Hydrate properly & you don't need a starter. If you're SG is over 1.070, I'd pitch two. I did do a barleywine, SG 1.104, once with a single packet of Nottingham. Took 3 months. I do yeast cakes now.
Dried yeast contains many more yeast cells than the liquid form.
I use safale S-04 in ciders, hard lemonades (and also in beers previously, but not now). It's a neutral tasting ale yeast that I've never needed to re-hydrate or use a starter with.
I'd go with a liquid version (with a starter) every time for beer though. Specialist liquid beer yeast strains make the hobby worthwhile. I can buy all my ingredients locally but have to mail order the liquid yeast alone!
I use safale S-04 in ciders, hard lemonades (and also in beers previously, but not now). It's a neutral tasting ale yeast that I've never needed to re-hydrate or use a starter with.
I'd go with a liquid version (with a starter) every time for beer though. Specialist liquid beer yeast strains make the hobby worthwhile. I can buy all my ingredients locally but have to mail order the liquid yeast alone!
boo boo
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Caplan said:
True... the point is that if you want more yeast then just pitch more yeast.
In fact making a starter for dry yeast can be bad for your yeast as there is a large amount of yeast in a packet and pitching that into a small volume of starter wort will result in the nutrients and food nesessary for yeast growth to be rapidly depleated.
