Wyeast 3724 - Dry Substitute -Three Options

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I'm going to brew my favorite summer beer this weekend, but looking to substitute the usual yeast, Wyeast 3724 (Belgian Saison), with one of three dry yeasts I already have onhand:

Mangrove Jack M29 - French Saison
Lallemand Belle Saison
Lallemand Farmhouse Hybrid Saison

I'm leaning toward the farmhouse as likely to be most similar, but I've never used any of the three, so open to any input or suggestions.

Thank you.
 
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Actually, I found a frozen 3724 harvest that I forgot about. I'm going to try making a starter with it. If the starter doesn't work, one of the above dry yeasts will be my backup plan.
 

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3724 is a diastaticus strain. Llellemond farmhouse is not. I am not sure if that would matter with your recipe or not.

I have only used belle saison once (for beer) and it was a bit tart with a hint of spice. It was good... pretty tame. Looks like I fermented it at 70- 72. Warmer may have produced more character.
 
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@Spundit - Thanks. I'm not looking for tart. So I may take Belle Saison off the contender list for now. I've used 3724 many times, and though it's diastaticus, it usually still leaves a lost of malt flavor behind, light but not too dry. So maybe Farmhouse is the way to go. Will see.
 

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I'm sort of expecting the first two to be the same (no actual evidence or source though tbh). In particular, they produce the same kind of bland, oddly sweet beer. To be fair, many people like those strains, but they're far from 3724.
 

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The Mangrove M29 is a monster fermenter, but has very little character other than some soft lemon and pepper notes. I wouldn't recommend it except maybe as a copitch to get over the propensity for Belgian saison strains to crap out at 1.030.

Put it this way- I'm glad I brewed my reason M29 Saison with some interesting experimental hops otherwise it would be rather dull.
 
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Just a quick update - I used the Lallemand Farmhouse to brew a Saison (blending in a bit of festbier wort I was brewing the same day - calling it a "September Saison"). It is an interesting yeast. It didn't have the full esters or smoothness of Wyeast 3724, but it does have the dry-ish malt flavor for a saison. I think it would be really good for Wits, and I may use it for a Gruit I'm brewing next brew day (may pitch directly onto the saison yeast cake).
 
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