"wort" or "wert"

[rightwingnut]

Does anyone actually pronounce it "wert"? I've read in several places that that is the correct pronunciation, but I can't bring myself to use it. I just don't like "wert". Looks like "wort", so I say "wort". So there.

 

[cosmotini]

Does anyone actually pronounce it "wert"? I've read in several places that that is the correct pronunciation, but I can't bring myself to use it. I just don't like "wert". Looks like "wort", so I say "wort". So there.

I have trouble with "wert" too. I say it as I see it and I see "wort".

Regards,

Dennis

 

[JEM Australia]

Does anyone actually pronounce it "wert"? I've read in several places that that is the correct pronunciation, but I can't bring myself to use it. I just don't like "wert". Looks like "wort", so I say "wort". So there.

I'm with you mate. Yes the right way is "wert" but that just sounds plain silly! Sorry to the purists but "wort" it is for me too.

 

[smorris]

While wert is the correct way, I prefer to call it "basal state beer".

 

[arachnyd]

I've always spelled it wort and pronounced it 'wert'
when I hear it pronounced 'wart' I find myself wincing

Do you pronounce WORD as if it were spelled 'werd' or 'ward?'

 

[rightwingnut]

That's just plain different! Sort, port, fort....wort! Word is the exception to the rule!!

 

[cosmotini]

Now I'm curious. Where did the brewing words and terms come from? Wort, Trub, Mash, Racking cane (sounds painful, if you're a guy), etc. Anyone know?

Dennis

 

[uglygoat]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=wort

says middle english in origin.

 

[Janx]

Say it wert, spell it wort. It's just the way it is.

What's more other brewers will know what you're talking about and not wince if you say it right

Janx

 

[Roger]

I've always spelled it wort and pronounced it 'wert'
when I hear it pronounced 'wart' I find myself wincing

Do you pronounce WORD as if it were spelled 'werd' or 'ward?'

If you meet some one from Liverpool England, they would pronounce word as werd! The same applies to wort. Maybe it started here?

 

[Janx]

Darn near everyone says "word" as werd. I don't think it's a British thing. It's just the way the word "word" is pronounced.

 

[rightwingnut]

Ha ha! Too true, Janx!

 

[JEM Australia]

Ha ha! Too true, Janx!

OK maybe Arachnyd's got a point there. Just think "word".

Word, word, word, word......wert. There....I did it!

 

[Roger]

Darn near everyone says "word" as werd. I don't think it's a British thing. It's just the way the word "word" is pronounced.

I've never heard an American pronounce it as a Liverpudlian does the "o" in word is said like the "e" in echo. It's not a British thing either just a local Liverpool dialect. I suppose you have to hear it to appreciate.

 

[NUCC98]

I've never heard an American pronounce it as a Liverpudlian does the "o" in word is said like the "e" in echo. It's not a British thing either just a local Liverpool dialect. I suppose you have to hear it to appreciate.

Liverpool...great football team....of course, I'm partial to Arsenal...1, they named their team "The Gunners"...and 2, any team that uses lyrics from the Sex Pistols gets my vote!

 

[Flywheel]

That's just plain different! Sort, port, fort....wort! Word is the exception to the rule!!

bomb....mom
comb....home
their.....there
freak....steak
enough...dough
snow....plow

English is goofy....

 

[specialkaye]

While wert is the correct way, I prefer to call it "basal state beer".

Well, THAT certainly rolls off the tongue much easier than "wort."

 

[Bobby_M]

I don't understand the concept of knowing the correct pronunciation of a word and then deciding to go the other way. The language is full of nonintuitive components as it is but as brewers, we should respect the terminology. Might as well just call it sugar water.

 

[rod251]

Am I dreaming or did I hear Sam pronounce it "wort" on brewmasters?

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I don't understand the concept of knowing the correct pronunciation of a word and then deciding to go the other way. The language is full of nonintuitive components as it is but as brewers, we should respect the terminology. Might as well just call it sugar water.

would you say that as "shugger wahtar" or "shoogar wadder"?

 

[BeerPressure]

I say it as wert.

Really bugs me when my brewing buddies pronounce mash TUNE.

 

[GilaMinumBeer]

I say it as wert.

Really bugs me when my brewing buddies pronounce mash TUNE.

Yeah. They got that all wrong. It's pronounced "Toon"

 

[Walker]

I believe the word "wort" comes from German. So, it would be pronounced with the 'W' sounding like a 'V' and the 'or' sounding like a 'air' (as in 'breathing air').

 

[BeerPressure]

Yeah. They got that all wrong. It's pronounced "Toon"

Not toon or tune.

TUHN

tun
   /tʌn/ Show Spelled [tuhn] Show IPA ,noun, verb, tunned, tun·ning.
–noun
1.
a large cask for holding liquids, esp. wine, ale, or beer.

 

[starrfish]

Am I dreaming or did I hear Sam pronounce it "wort" on brewmasters?

I caught that too.

 

[Bernie Brewer]

Say it WERT. If you say it the other way you are talking about something on your finger that has to be burned away.........

 

[sacrifice]

Well, the dog fish guy from the brew masters TV show pronounced it wort on this weeks show, so I will from now on consider wort to be way to pronounce it.

/ EOT

 

[JAStout]

Trub or Troob?

 

[sacrifice]

Trub or Troob?

Turb

 

[logan3825]

Am I dreaming or did I hear Sam pronounce it "wort" on brewmasters?

Yup he said wart. I heard it pronounced that way when I took the New Glarus brewery tour last year as well. The guy giving the tour was a Siebel graduate. I guess it is like croissant being turned into croisandwich.(at least according to Dennis Leary)

 

[JAStout]

Turb

Nice, I thought so.

 

[TheDom]

Wait, its pronounced wert? Ohnoes! I've been pronouncing it wrong! Do you think it'll lead to off-flavors?

 

[kanzimonson]

Basically, when I hear somebody say "wart," I think they're stupid... every brewing text out there specifically tells you how to pronounce it correctly.

These are the same people who say "nookular."

 

[tomsan]

I've always pronounced it 'wort' but I was in Dublin last week and the guides at both the Guinness brewery and the Jamesons distillery pronounced it 'wert'.

Now I don't know what to do...

 

[VT-NAV]

Basically, when I hear somebody say "wart," I think they're stupid... every brewing text out there specifically tells you how to pronounce it correctly.

These are the same people who say "nookular."

Most dictionaries say either pronunciation is acceptable.

The word is based off the old English word "wyrt". Which suggests that pronouncing the modern version as "wert" is proper.

However, if you expand your view to look at how pronunciation for similar old or middle English words evolved, then "wort" is also proper. For instance, passing gas is not called a "fert," which is how we would pronounce the word today if not for the evolution of the language.

 

[sboyajian]

Relevant
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWN9rTc08GU[/ame]

 

[burninator]

When you leave your house in the morning, are you going to "work" or "werk"?

 

[Gavin C]

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[kh54s10]

Link to a rant I had last year: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=453708

Some more are: their, there, they're.... Then, than..... Were, we're

Some are just typo's and others are just used improperly.

 

[Pilgarlic]

"Wert". But I respect your right to be wrong.