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Reading about "Multi-Gig" WAN ports... Not really an IEEE standard and still associated with 10Gb physical ports. Just saying, seems a bit proprietary IMO. So lookout! :D
I might end up waiting for 10Gb ports to come 'standard' for this. Of course, it all depends on other things. like what my service speed is. Right now I'm fighting motorola due to their crap modem (MB86111) rebooting every 1-4 days (for well over a month). Swapped to a netgear CM1200 (from a friend) a week ago. Not a single reboot (after the normal/initial ones you get when setting one up). Moto support claimed it was the ISP. Nope, 100% green state from the pole to the modem. Zero other issues with the service line from the pole upstream too. The one sitting here is the replacement for the one I bought. I had to pay return ship on the first one (which is BS since it was under warranty). Which means I'm out more than the unit price (total so far is about $185).

Bottom line, I won't recommend anyone get a moto modem now, or anytime in the future. Especially since if it develops issues (high chance) you're going to be spending even MORE in the hope you get a 'good' replacement at some point.
 
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@passedpawn @day_trippr Using the Linksys AX6000 for my router/WAP (wifi 6, but my personal laptop isn't). Has more than enough coverage for where I'm living now. Who knows when I move but I can always add the mesh items at that point. I'll be looking at getting a router with at least a 2.5Gb WAN port at some point. Of course, my modem will need to support that too. Been trying to use a motorola MB8611 but it keeps rebooting every few days (1-4). Testing with a nutgear that a friend gave me and it's been a week without any issue. Motorola support keeps claiming it's the ISP. Had them out to fully test the service line. Zero issues there. I already did one return/replace with moto, so I'm out even MORE than the cost of the unit (I had to pay return ship for the first one). Suffice to say I'm pissed off at moto at this point.
Yea, all these routers are commodity electronics and will die at some point. I really like the Asus routers - very nice firmware on them with traffic analyzers, attached client lists, all sorts of neat stuff.
 

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For anyone rocking an AMD processor, may want to think twice about upgrading to Windows 11 just yet. I've seen a couple articles that say it slows AMD processors and they pushed a update out that actually made it worse. Just do your research before clicking upgrade.

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Yea, all these routers are commodity electronics and will die at some point. I really like the Asus routers - very nice firmware on them with traffic analyzers, attached client lists, all sorts of neat stuff.
Failure at <2 months is BS. Not even dying, just poor hardware or faulty firmware on the ones being sent out. I wouldn't mind so much if it was a couple of years after purchase. But at so soon from purchase (supposed to have a warranty on the item) it tells me they really don't care. I stopped getting motorola phones due to major QC issues with the devices and poor support of them. Looks like I should have stayed clear of their modems as well.
 

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Tryin to tell you guys... Ubuntu 20.04 is the most painless OS I have tried since the days of OS/2 Warp. Mint is basically another pea in the same pod. Try it on your old obsolete (but not TOO obsolete... it would suck on a XT class machine if it would run at all) hardware. Or run it from a Live USB for a couple of weeks.
 
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Tryin to tell you guys... Ubuntu 20.04 is the most painless OS I have tried since the days of OS/2 Warp. Mint is basically another pea in the same pod. Try it on your old obsolete (but not TOO obsolete... it would suck on a XT class machine if it would run at all) hardware. Or run it from a Live USB for a couple of weeks.
Will it run the 100 apps that I need to make a living? Are there drivers for all the hardware I connect to my PC?
 

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Will it run the 100 apps that I need to make a living? Are there drivers for all the hardware I connect to my PC?
Somw Windows apps can be run under Wine (WINE Is Not an Emulator)
Linux does recognize a lot of hardware these days. Heres's a website on what hardware works with Linux, although you can be pretty certain that devices that require specialized software probably won't work (i.e. Lexmark stuff): Linux Hardware Database
 

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Will it run the 100 apps that I need to make a living? Are there drivers for all the hardware I connect to my PC?
Possibly, though it is more likely that you would be using open source LInux apps to do the same thing. As for hardware compatibility, you might be surprised. Possibly disappointed, maybe delighted. Until you try, you will never know. If WinDOHs has become unacceptable, then working with the 'nix world might be the only way forward.
 

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My Windows usage on personal devices has been negligible over the past decade or so. I started off dual-booting XP with SimplyMepis Linux years ago, and my XP partition got almost no use after I quit playing AoE. I eventually switched to Linux Mint, and went without a windows partition.

I have been working on a project lately that motivated me to switch to Ubuntu Studio, but I anticipate that I'll be switching back to Mint again in the not to distant future. I actually do have a windows partition on this device, but I can't remember the last time I booted it.

I'm still leery of Windows since the years of Gates and Ballmer spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) with made up legal issues where Linux somehow infringed on Microsoft patents.

Also, Firefox is the best browser.
 

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My Windows usage on personal devices has been negligible over the past decade or so. I started off dual-booting XP with SimplyMepis Linux years ago, and my XP partition got almost no use after I quit playing AoE. I eventually switched to Linux Mint, and went without a windows partition.

I have been working on a project lately that motivated me to switch to Ubuntu Studio, but I anticipate that I'll be switching back to Mint again in the not to distant future. I actually do have a windows partition on this device, but I can't remember the last time I booted it.

I'm still leery of Windows since the years of Gates and Ballmer spreading FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) with made up legal issues where Linux somehow infringed on Microsoft patents.

Also, Firefox is the best browser.
FIrefox is pretty good, but I am really liking Brave right now.
 

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damn readin this thread, i feel like the same kid i was at the comodore club with old ww2 vets when i was 11-12....thinking to myself, what the hell is all this stuff their talking about.....i mean i remember tape drives, BBs, but 10Gb wifi? WTF? lol, tilt hydrometers in fermenters? still cool listenin to the olddies!
 
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Occasionally there are articles on "how to" and "whether or not to" switch to a different platform. A newer (and new to me) article can be found here (link). It's refreshing to see that many of the recent articles have moved beyond name calling ...

For most of my "at home" calculation / digital communication needs, a hypothetical next generation Raspberry PI may be the "sweet spot".

And from what I've been scanning, Raspberry Pi ecosystem seems to be interesting in having fun building things and delivering value.
 

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I'll be sticking with Win10 for the near term for these reasons:

1) None of my current desktops pass the TPM 2.0 test. They are old and overdue for upgrades anyway but I'll need to budget for replacements, probably next year.
2) The Surface Pro 6 I use for my job will run it. But I'm in the middle of a big project that wont wrap up until ~02/2022 and there's no way I'm going to risk any potential impact from an OS upgrade. I simply cant afford that sort of hiccup.

But I will get to Win11 soon enough. Interestingly this is the first time in my career that I havent already been using the latest OS version. I've even typically used pre-release versions in production capacity to truly test things before GA. While I have been using pre-release bits via Windows Insider builds, it's only been in a VM that I only start up every now and then.

As to Windows -vs- Linux: I dabble with NIX distros too. But at the end of the day, I need Windows for the work I do. So I'll be a Windows user until either I no longer do the work I do or the OS lines blur so much that it doesn't matter anymore.
Trends seem to suggest we're on that path but we're certianly not quite there yet.

#DanceWithTheOneThatBrungYa
 
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2) The Surface Pro 6 I use for my job will run it. But I'm in the middle of a big project that wont wrap up until ~02/2022 and there's no way I'm going to risk any potential impact from an OS upgrade. I simply cant afford that sort of hiccup.
FYI I did upgrade to Win11 and it was completely painless. Everything works as it did before, including external hardware (e.g., JTAG debuggers). All of my software that is important (compilers, pcb design tools, etc) still work fine. The ONLY thing I've noticed that didn't make the transition was a stock ticker widget that was on my desktop.

I don't see much difference at all frankly. Some minor gui improvements (options for tiling apps on the desktop is nice). I don't see any compelling reason to upgrade to 11 now, but I guess I like to keep my computer up-to-date.
 

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FYI I did upgrade to Win11 and it was completely painless. Everything works as it did before, including external hardware (e.g., JTAG debuggers).
Yeah, and honestly I expect that will be my experience too. But speaking of experience; when you decide to do things like this in the middle of a big project, thats when "Murphy" decides to show up! :ghostly:
 

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My new-early-summer HP passed so I ran the upgrade. Other than the new, but familiar UI, no change.
 
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I expect that will be my experience too. But speaking of experience, when you decide to do things like this in the middle of a big project, thats when "Murphy" decides to show up!
Yup.

No benefit with (even a small) risk of something bad happening? ==> no reason to take the risk.

As of today, Windows 10 gets update for roughly 4 more years (support ends mid-Oct 2025 ). Plenty of time to investigate alternatives. So, for me, at home, no reason to buy new hardware for the next two or three years.
 
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