Windows 11

[shoengine]

OMG that URL is wayyyyyy too long. Here, this should work.

https://www.amazon.com/KAMRUI-Desktop-Computers-Support-Business/dp/B0CGD9F533/

When you see ref= on Amazon you can usually delete that and whatever follows it. There might be browser options/extensions that chop that off, but if you want something to look for with your real, human, not at all AI eyes, that usually works for me.

Everything from the first question mark on should be deleted unless it is a submission on a form (like search results).

 

[tracer bullet]

I installed "StartAllBack" to my work laptop (which I'm sure I'm not supposed to do). Moved the Start bar back to the left side of the monitor where it belongs (where I am used to and where I don't care about losing screen real estate anyhow). Maybe I'm the only one that cares but the muscle memory to go to the left was driving me nuts.

 

[sibelman]

What's all this talk about installing Win11 on "old" machines? I thought MS had largely blocked that, meaning that my "old" Win10 machine wouldn't run it -- not that I'm eager to "upgrade" anyway...

 

[z-bob]

They have blocked automatic installs. You can manually install it; download the iso from Microsoft then use software called "Rufus" to copy the iso to a USB drive and optionally remove the minimum hardware checks and requirement for a Microsoft account. Before version 24H2 it would run on just about anything. The latest versions require processors that supports some fancy new instruction that I don't remember, but I think that includes all i3, i5, i7, and Xeon processors.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-99a58364-8c02-206f-aa6f-40c3b507420d
https://rufus.ie/en/

There's no guarantee that they won't torpedo W11 installs on older hardware sometime in the future, but I think i3 and up are pretty safe.

 

[balrog]

Yeah, I’ve put win11 on things I shouldn’t have. Done things I ought not to have done. Not done things I ought to have done. Etc etc.

Sometimes it’s fun just to try.

And try massgrave.dev and all manner of things on my digital life forums.

 

[Kent88]

He's dug too greedily and too deep... into the registry.

 

[balrog]

It’s a tar pit fer sure.

 

[whoaru99]

I installed W11 Pro on an unused 10 year old desktop (Dell OptiPlex 3020) a couple of days ago and it seems to be running just fine. That was a trial run before upgrading the church computer which is a similar vintage (Optiplex 7020.) It eventually activated automatically using the W10 digital key but it took a while for some reason. (had me worried for a bit)

I wanted to use the 23H2 version to ease into this, because 24H2 is supposed to have more stringent requirements, but I could not find 23H2 media from a trusted source. Rufus said the 23H2 iso I downloaded from archive.org had a corrupted boot loader, or something like that. It might have worked just fine but installed a rootkit or other malware.

Is there actually a 23H2 full installer?

Not that there isn't a 23H2 version of Windows, but I thought I read somewhere that 22H2 contains the 23H2 stuff, but the features get activated by some sort of update/patch, not an install per se.

 

[whoaru99]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action about blocking the W11 installs on older PCs. Or, maybe there has been an attempt and it got squashed or determined no basis.

It runs as good as, I think better, than W10 does on my mainstay i5 4th gens.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

I'm surprised there hasn't been a class action about blocking the W11 installs on older PCs. Or, maybe there has been an attempt and it got squashed or determined no basis.

It runs as good as, I think better, than W10 does on my mainstay i5 4th gens.

what their trying to do is make it safer so you can’t get a boot virus which is the number one way to infect a computer and hold it for ransom, I’m completely against “the mans” control, but I get this

 

[day_trippr]

Ironically, it turns out "Secure Boot" probably isn't, and apparently a bunch of motherboard manufacturers loaded their TPM2.0 code with keys that were only supposed to be used for testing - so "Trusted" they aren't because the test keys were widely distributed...

Cheers!

 

[whoaru99]

Interesting coincidence. My work PC just updated from W10 to W11 23H2. Didn't keep exact time but maybe 45 to 50 minutes, including a restart for several minutes of BIOS updating.

So far it seems to have gone well and uneventfully.

 

[balrog]

Guess the only way to be safe is to go back to when your pc came with no network card.

Or modem.

But you had a joystick port.

 

[whoaru99]

Guess the only way to be safe is to go back to when your pc came with no network card.

Or modem.

But you had a joystick port.

If that's in reference to SW updates, in my example above it's a corporate managed PC. I have no say in updates other than being able to postpone one time up to 24 hours.

 

[balrog]

If that's in reference to SW updates, in my example above it's a corporate managed PC. I have no say in updates other than being able to postpone one time up to 24 hours.

Sorry, no, it's a very old person's opinion that to stay safe from external viral infection, stick with a system that has no external connection. You know, when we worried about sneaker net viruses.

 

[sibelman]

to stay safe

Safety is illusory. Be very afraid. Or air-gapped.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

windows 11 has issues transferring videos from android to the pc, keeps disconnecting, the real issue is I'm doing work for the local sheriff to catch a thief who stole an RV, go figure when I really need something to work, it doesn't

 

[day_trippr]

Are you using USB or network (wifi)? I've not run into any issues pushing pics or videos on my phone to my workstation via network, especially since using Google "Quick Share" from my Samsung phone to my PC became real and reliable. It's super simple and quick, just "share" via Quick Share and boom! I only use USB for charging...

Cheers!

 

[sibelman]

keeps disconnecting

Sorry for asking an obvious question: have you tried swapping cables? Less obvious: do repeated attempts fail at the same point in time or file size?

Anyhow, best of luck with your data transfer struggle.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

its the new apps they make you use, i can understand about security and theft but the user experience has to work easier

 

[sibelman]

user experience

But what about changing things just so they look and work differently? That sometimes seems to be a primary goal.

Yes, security changes almost never require messing with the user experience. That kind of change is only justified if it truly makes the app work better. Too often, it does the opposite. This even happens sometimes in the Linux world.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

found the thief, I have the video, this is a cut, they stole that camper

 

[passedpawn]

Excellent. Throw the book at them.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Excellent. Throw the book at them.

Sent the video to the sheriff's office, there was also a scout car in front, not good for those idiots

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Yeah, I'd like to know if anyone has good recs for a microPC as well.

I had one running Linux as a little home server and after ~9 years or so it died. Need to have something to replace it. Doesn't need high performance, so nothing "top of the line", but looking for "bang for the buck current technology".

found out the best latest processor seems to be n305

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

found out the best latest processor seems to be n305

you can pay about $400 and get a Ryzen 7 mini pc and that's going 4.5 GHz

https://www.amazon.com/GMKtec-Mini-PC-Ryzen7-5700U/dp/B0CD7Y4C5Y/ref=sr_1_3?

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

I just had a 23h2 update today, I think it was just .NET stuff

 

[day_trippr]

Not a day goes by that there isn't a report of yet another bug in 24H2. I have had all W11P updates paused for the max allowed delay, which will end on November 21st, in the hope the problems will have been resolved by then. Keeping a clone of my boot drive fresh just in case an update happens anyway and borks my machine...

Cheers!

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

you can pay about $400 and get a Ryzen 7 mini pc and that's going 4.4Ghz

https://www.amazon.com/GMKtec-Mini-PC-Ryzen7-5700U/dp/B0CD7Y4C5Y/ref=sr_1_3?

Any thoughts on the best barebones version? I don't need an OS, I can install RAM myself, and I get pretty solid pricing on SSDs (for the next 2+ months at least).

 

[sibelman]

just in case an update happens anyway and borks my machine...

Man, I just can't wait for that Windows 11 joy.

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Any thoughts on the best barebones version? I don't need an OS, I can install RAM myself, and I get pretty solid pricing on SSDs (for the next 2+ months at least).

depends on the processor you want, there is a big difference in price, some of the lower ends you can do that, look here
https://www.aliexpress.us/

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

here's the latest updates as of today, nothing went bonkers lol

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

depends on the processor you want, there is a big difference in price, some of the lower ends you can do that, look here
https://www.aliexpress.us/

I bought this to run my home
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805787169916.html?

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Excellent. Throw the book at them.

just to note they have been caught and the detective said he used my video only

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

Any thoughts on the best barebones version? I don't need an OS, I can install RAM myself, and I get pretty solid pricing on SSDs (for the next 2+ months at least).

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807296128743.html?

 

[sibelman]

fwiw, Newegg.com has a wide variety of mini PCs, barebones or not, fanless or not, likely faster than Ali. You probably already know this, @Ozarks Mountain Brewery

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

fwiw, Newegg.com has a wide variety of mini PCs, barebones or not, fanless or not, likely faster than Ali. You probably already know this, @Ozarks Mountain Brewery

yes I agree but not necessarily cheaper, I do shop and Newegg all the time

 

[day_trippr]

Microsoft is getting pounded over MSFS2024. No bueno...

https://www.ign.com/articles/as-mic...letely-underestimated-excitement-for-the-game

 

[day_trippr]

It gets worse



lol "I'm Führerous."

 

[passedpawn]

Microsoft is getting pounded over MSFS2024. No bueno...

https://www.ign.com/articles/as-mic...letely-underestimated-excitement-for-the-game

I use MSFS. I am waiting to upgrade, looking for reviews. It's a major change to the sim.