Kayos
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Nate said:I started off with all grain... very glad I did.
There you go..time to PM this guy!
Nate said:I started off with all grain... very glad I did.
snarky's a good word!olllllo said:I'm just being snarky, but yes. Extract batches will help you answer these questions in small bites.
niquejim said:I was going to do an AG but I'm on my own teaching 20-30 with no experience.
rdwj said:You're teaching 20-30 people and have never done this before? Seems like a REALLY bad idea. You should get a couple of sessions under your belt before trying to show others - even if it's just extract.
niquejim++ said:I was going to do an AG but I'm on my own teaching 20-30, none of whom have any experience.
menschmaschine said:I think it really depends on the individual. If you're mechanically inclined, studious, a science geek, and realistically interested in brewing to the point that you see yourself doing it for a long time (i.e., not fickle with hobbies), one can go right into all-grain. (Oh and don't forget the money.) I only say this because that describes my situation. I figured extracts didn't exist hundreds of years ago, and with the info on today's internet, why not? I like to make things from scratch (see my pretzel recipe thread). It took me 6 months of research and 2 months building a 3-tier keggle system. I conjured up my own recipe for a lager (and bought a chest freezer w/ temp control) and once I was confident in the science behind it and the procedures of actually doing it, I did it. My first batch is in bottles now (primed with gyle) and, apart from being a slightly sweet due to an uncorrected high OG, tastes pretty damn good, if I do say so myself. I can sum it up like this: if you build it, beer will come.
menschmaschine said:I think it really depends on the individual. If you're mechanically inclined, studious, a science geek, and realistically interested in brewing to the point that you see yourself doing it for a long time (i.e., not fickle with hobbies), one can go right into all-grain. (Oh and don't forget the money.) I only say this because that describes my situation. I figured extracts didn't exist hundreds of years ago, and with the info on today's internet, why not? I like to make things from scratch (see my pretzel recipe thread). It took me 6 months of research and 2 months building a 3-tier keggle system. I conjured up my own recipe for a lager (and bought a chest freezer w/ temp control) and once I was confident in the science behind it and the procedures of actually doing it, I did it. My first batch is in bottles now (primed with gyle) and, apart from being a slightly sweet due to an uncorrected high OG, tastes pretty damn good, if I do say so myself. I can sum it up like this: if you build it, beer will come.
olllllo said:and have at least 8 batches done in the same time frame.
menschmaschine said:Actually, I had so much fun studying it and building the system (anticipation!) that on my first brew day, I worried that actually brewing it wouldn't be as fun. At the end of the day (12 hours later!), I realized that was one of the most rewarding days of my life (hobby-wise).
I second that. I started in April of this year doing extract and went allgrain after 2 extracts and 2 partials. Probably have well over 15 brews under my belt including 3 or 4 of my own reciepes. Two of which royally sucked lol, but I learned valuable lessons on every batch. My attitude is complete learn from doing. I'm not a cheapskate like some other brewer's so the way I think is to try a reciepe, if it sucks and my primaries are full ( i got beer on the way)-dump it and brew another (Ive only had to dump 2). This method is not for everyone I just tend to go balls to the wall on any hobby I have and from reading some of the other regular's who post on this forum I think alot of the other brewers who have been at it for awhile are the same way. Bottom line if it sucks, brew another one:rockin: . And I think that it is probably possible to do all grain right of the get go (i probably couldn't of), when you get down to it the step consists of dumping water and grain in a cooler and letting it sit for an hour.olllllo said:For the sake of discussion, one could:
and have at least 8 batches done in the same time frame.
- walk into a LHBS;
- plunked down $ for a starter kit;
- brewed that day;
- asked this board 75 times is my beer ruined;
- RDWHA Micro Brew;
- rinse & repeat;
Congrats BTW menschmaschine.
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