Whole leaf hop question

[Ralelen]

Could I replace 1oz of a pellet hop (Simcoe) with 1oz of whole leaf and get the same AA? Or is there a formula for substitution? The Hops are being planned to be added at 15 and flame out.

 

[DoctorDuvel]

Usage is 1oz pellets to 1oz loose - and the alphas should be noted somewhere on the package - they vary from crop to crop.

 

[Double_D]

Here I hope this helps. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/leaf-vs-pellet-hops-67383/

 

[Tinga]

the AA would be the same across a different amount of hops but the IBU's contributed from whole leaf vs pellets is different. you need more whole leaf than pellets. i think the utilization of whole leafs is something like 75% that of pellets. im sure someone will chime in with a more reliable number.

 

[DoctorDuvel]

my info comes from the guys at the HBS...though many on this forum say that extraction is slightly lower when using loose hops

 

[Yooper]

my info comes from the guys at the HBS...though many on this forum say that extraction is slightly lower when using loose hops

It is. But for 15 minute and aroma hops, the IBU differences would be negligible.

 

[Hex]

Would food processing whole hops help?

 

[Ralelen]

the AA would be the same across a different amount of hops but the IBU's contributed from whole leaf vs pellets is different. you need more whole leaf than pellets. i think the utilization of whole leafs is something like 75% that of pellets. im sure someone will chime in with a more reliable number.

I meant IBU, had to deal with a flooded basement so the brain isnt working today.

 

[remilard]

10% is the rule of thumb. Agree it doesn't really matter for late additions.

 

[DoctorDuvel]

It is. But for 15 minute and aroma hops, the IBU differences would be negligible.

i think i'd trust HBT over any HBS

 

[Double_D]

Would food processing whole hops help?

Definitely, if you're trying to make a resinous mess. Just buy the pellets, it's easier.

 

[Hex]

Definitely, if you're trying to make a resinous mess. Just buy the pellets, it's easier.

Pellets make a resinous mess, and easier is buying beer at BevMO.

 

[Double_D]

True but much less satisfying

 

[Hex]

I wonder if pulverizing whole leaf hops would elevate some of the liquid loses associated with using them for dry hopping, but that may be for another thread...

 

[Double_D]

Do you want to raise liquid loss? I am under the impression it will happen no matter what. The angels have to get their share too. IMO, whole hops are easier to deal with. "Unless you have a filter" is what a friend of mine says who uses pellets though so go figure.