wobdee
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Once I hit 50 it was like turning off a switch. I went from brewing highly hopped IPA/IIPA's to malty 5% Lagers. I still have an occasional big beer out at the bar but prefer a nice clean balanced Pils.
Hey I said nothing about being a lightweight and did not mean to offend you if you have to wear diapers but I also don't really care. My point was that I don't spend hours sitting around drinking, don't have time for it. I also don't get s#!+faced don't have time for that either. Well I do right now but I don't do it. As for political correctness, I don't care, too many people hide behind that so they don't have to hear the truth. Too many people are too afraid of offending someone that they no longer speak the truth. I was not making fun of those that make light beers merely pointing out that I like to push the limits of my beer making. It is not easy to make a heavy beer that is drinkable. By the same token I am sure that it is not easy to make a light beer that doesn't taste like water. We all have our strengths and weaknesses my weakness is enjoying a wee heavy.
I took your comment as a suggestion that those who prefer lower ABV beers belonged in diapers......either not "big boys" yet, or "over the hill"..... In other words "real men drink 12% beer"....... or something to that effect.
There are many of us who do NOT strive for the "drunken state", but who do enjoy beer, wine, whiskey, etc. That means moderation, which can come in the form of lower alcohol beers, or less beer.
I have trained my bartenders to cut me off at two beers for many years now, because the only decent brews available locally in my small town are quite high ABV, and I'd rather drink one of these than some garbage light beer that gives me no pleasure to drink. I also live 20 miles away from the nearest bar, grocery store, gas station, etc down a narrow two lane highway heavily populated by deer with a kamakazi streak. And then there is the matter of the law. The new BAC limits mean that most of us are probably over the limit when leaving the bar after only 2 micro brews.
I'm an advocate of responsible drinkery.....it just makes sense. I was young and stupid like everybody else, and drank too much too often........but I came through it unscathed. I've never been picked up by the law, never wrecked a vehicle, and never let alcohol take over my life. All around me I've watched people die in drunken car wrecks.... I don't have enough fingers to count all the friends I've lost that way.... and not many toes left. I've watched drunken brawls countless times...... I slip out the back door before the law shows up. I've seen countless marriages broken up as a result of alcohol. I still see young people trying to prove themselves by how much they can drink. I've also watched a number of friends die of lung cancer from a smoking habit they would not have taken up except that they liked to have a cigarette when drinking......... to be cool like their friends, and found they couldn't quit............. None of it is pretty.
Here in Montana, we the American Legion puts up crosses wherever people are killed on the highways. I can drive to town (20 miles), and tell you the story of most of the crosses........ who they represent, and what happened. The son of a friend of mine died a few miles from here, and his mother put up a small monument at the site, that she lays a wreath of fresh flowers on every year, and plastic flowers year round. Two drunken kids.... rolled a pickup on dead level straight highway with gentle shoulders. I drove through the middle of a cluster of ambulances and police cars that night as I came home from the bar....... two young men laying dead on the pavement. Both boys I knew well. I put walkway lights on either side of the monument as a reminder.
If I get hostile when my practice of moderation is ridiculed.......... it's NOT without good reason. I've watched the toll being paid year after year, often in blood and tears.
H.W.
I guess I should have worded my quote a little better the quote actually comes from a time when I use to sell and modify trucks and jeeps at my shop. I guess it has just carried over into most things that I do except for actually drinking. Since I was in an accident in June I haven't brewed, not enough stamina and these days I can barely drink 2 beers of the lower abv variety anyway. My oldest son is on leave and has to go back on thanksgiving so we are going to try to brew while he is in town. One of the few light abv brews I have ever done was a scotch ale so we will probably do something like that, especially since I can't handle anything stronger anyway plus he is coming back for the new year also before he deploys overseas again. It will be his first time brewing and hopefully it will be ready for his trip back here in January.
Sorry you have known so many that didn't know when to say when, I have been fortunate in that respect I guess I only know one person that has gotten a dui and he was 18 or 19 at the time, 25 years ago or so. Learned the lesson by hitting a stopped cop car writing a ticket to someone. I guess the flashing lights didn't get his attention. Fortunately no one was hurt and he learned his lesson.[/QUOTE
I over reacted I guess........ comes from being ridiculed for quitting at 2 beers over the years by young tough guys, many of whom have more than one DUI to their names, and several of whom are "pushing up daisies" now. The single car roll over is the classic Montana traffic fatality. I've lost two friends just this year! Neither of them close friends, but people I knew and liked and associated with. Both younger than me, and both left grieving families behind. I've tried to promote moderation mostly by example........ and succeeded in a number of cases, but not nearly enough. I would like to see the drinking culture change.
Work related accident? It often takes a LONG time to get back to normal after the anesthesia they give you during surgery... years in some cases. The drugs take more out of you than the injury in many cases. Hope you get better...... patience is often what it takes. I've hurt myself many times....... not seriously......... I've had issues that took years to work themselves out. Around here the "horse wreck" seems to be knocking people out of commission on a regular basis. Ranch country. I don't ride anymore..... I've burned through 8 lives on horseback..... I know how to quit while I'm ahead.
A friend of mine who died a few years ago of old age had a real drinking problem. He was Sheriff in Jordan Montana (Garfield County Sheriff), and a cowboy from the top of his head to the heels of his boots.... a cowboy from cowboy stock of generations. He had a few too many drinks one night in Jordan, and the highway patrol pulled him over and gave him his 3rd DUI. He lost his driver's license as a result for 6 months, and spent that 6 months patrolling Garfield County on horseback......... To my knowledge Jordan is the only real town in Garfield County as far as I know..... the population of the county is less than 1300. But wait a minute.......... There's a punch line. He was re-elected and served another term as sheriff before he retired!
H.W.
Don't like drinking for hours on end except when we are sitting around playing cards which is only a couple of times a year. I like my beers big and have pushed a few over 10% and one over 12%. My thoughts on the subject and many others. ... "Go big or go home and put on your diaper" if you can't handle a few of my beers then you probably shouldn't be drinking. That being said I have made a beer or two in the sub 5.5 range and was able to satisfy the people who like to spend their time peeing.
1.045 or less fo sho!
Getting ready to brew a 2.5% abbey table beer with Rochefort yeast.
Solidarity brothas!
Care to share your recipe for that? I've never brewed a patersbier, and that sounds intriguing. Sometimes I'd like to enjoy more than a couple Belgian beers in a row just to enjoy the flavor, and not fall out of my chair!
Here in Montana, we the American Legion puts up crosses wherever people are killed on the highways. ...
H.W.
Out here in the Big Teat we call Washington D.C. (whence the milk of all our wealth being redistributed flows) they re-elect crack heads for Mayor and Feral legislators regularly play cocktail bumper cars, so the bar so to speak, has already been set about as low as it can go. One of our town commissioners gone by was said to have been relegated to a riding mower for transportation in recognition of his vehicular transgressions. Had a State legislator from Maryland who killed, or almost killed, someone driving his boat drunk in the middle of the day (he was a repeat offender). He actually had the balls to fight being tossed out of office. His rationale... that he wanted to stay due to all of the good that he could/would/had been doing?... A friend of mine who died a few years ago of old age had a real drinking problem. He was Sheriff in Jordan Montana (Garfield County Sheriff), and a cowboy from the top of his head to the heels of his boots.... a cowboy from cowboy stock of generations. He had a few too many drinks one night in Jordan, and the highway patrol pulled him over and gave him his 3rd DUI. He lost his driver's license as a result for 6 months, and spent that 6 months patrolling Garfield County on horseback......... To my knowledge Jordan is the only real town in Garfield County as far as I know..... the population of the county is less than 1300. But wait a minute.......... There's a punch line. He was re-elected and served another term as sheriff before he retired!
H.W.
As if I actually needed an excuse to stay home and drink.![]()
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I'm retarded... er, ah... retired, kids all growed, sleep 'til I'm not tired, and pretty much tell the world to K.M.A. every day, so I drink what I want when I want for the most part, and after 30 years, da wife doesn't really care. At 57 I still enjoy big flavorful brews, and while not a barley wine lover, I do enjoy a few Imperial IPA's in a sitting. Don't know the weight but the other night just sitting and shooting the breeze with a bud two dozen bottles of Orval somehow mysteriously became empty. Didn't have to drive anywhere, just a few hundred yards from home, but I honestly didn't feel like we'd drunk all that much. Maybe my punishing of the evil liver has finally persuaded it to submit? I dunno?
Summertime I might switch over to Victory Prima Pils to keep me from falling off of the riding mower, but generally German wheat and IPA's are why I love drinking beer, and the 5+% Prima is about as low as I go. If I wanted a lower gravity beer I guess I could do like the macro imports. Just add water and call it a "Lite".
Yeah... I don't think so.![]()
I guess I should have worded my quote a little better the quote actually comes from a time when I use to sell and modify trucks and jeeps at my shop. I guess it has just carried over into most things that I do except for actually drinking. Since I was in an accident in June I haven't brewed, not enough stamina and these days I can barely drink 2 beers of the lower abv variety anyway. My oldest son is on leave and has to go back on thanksgiving so we are going to try to brew while he is in town. One of the few light abv brews I have ever done was a scotch ale so we will probably do something like that, especially since I can't handle anything stronger anyway plus he is coming back for the new year also before he deploys overseas again. It will be his first time brewing and hopefully it will be ready for his trip back here in January.
Sorry you have known so many that didn't know when to say when, I have been fortunate in that respect I guess I only know one person that has gotten a dui and he was 18 or 19 at the time, 25 years ago or so. Learned the lesson by hitting a stopped cop car writing a ticket to someone. I guess the flashing lights didn't get his attention. Fortunately no one was hurt and he learned his lesson.[/QUOTE
I over reacted I guess........ comes from being ridiculed for quitting at 2 beers over the years by young tough guys, many of whom have more than one DUI to their names, and several of whom are "pushing up daisies" now. The single car roll over is the classic Montana traffic fatality. I've lost two friends just this year! Neither of them close friends, but people I knew and liked and associated with. Both younger than me, and both left grieving families behind. I've tried to promote moderation mostly by example........ and succeeded in a number of cases, but not nearly enough. I would like to see the drinking culture change.
Work related accident? It often takes a LONG time to get back to normal after the anesthesia they give you during surgery... years in some cases. The drugs take more out of you than the injury in many cases. Hope you get better...... patience is often what it takes. I've hurt myself many times....... not seriously......... I've had issues that took years to work themselves out. Around here the "horse wreck" seems to be knocking people out of commission on a regular basis. Ranch country. I don't ride anymore..... I've burned through 8 lives on horseback..... I know how to quit while I'm ahead.
A friend of mine who died a few years ago of old age had a real drinking problem. He was Sheriff in Jordan Montana (Garfield County Sheriff), and a cowboy from the top of his head to the heels of his boots.... a cowboy from cowboy stock of generations. He had a few too many drinks one night in Jordan, and the highway patrol pulled him over and gave him his 3rd DUI. He lost his driver's license as a result for 6 months, and spent that 6 months patrolling Garfield County on horseback......... To my knowledge Jordan is the only real town in Garfield County as far as I know..... the population of the county is less than 1300. But wait a minute.......... There's a punch line. He was re-elected and served another term as sheriff before he retired!
H.W.
Well I'm definitely not young anymore especially after this year. There is no reason big beers can't be enjoyed in moderation. They are better that way in my opinion any way. I like the comment about real men not peeing :cross:. I don't remember saying anything about real men or otherwise. But hey we are here to have fun and learn so if someone can come up with a recipe for a big tasting Belgian beer with an abv around 5 I am more than willing to give it a shot. Nneeds to be a tested recipe though I will only get one shot at this for the for the time being. I go to a rehabilitation hospital for a few weeks after thanksgiving and will not get any more chances to brew till after Christmas and maybe not then. Otherwise we will try doing one of my tried scotch ale recipes. I will have them work on my sense of humor while I am in the hospital. Everyone else lighten up this is funny s#!+! Can you imagine sending someone away to put on a diaper cause they didn't like your beer!big or not.
So you're going to rehab and need something to drink before and after? Doesn't that kinda make rehab a bit of a waste?Well I'm definitely not young anymore especially after this year. There is no reason big beers can't be enjoyed in moderation. They are better that way in my opinion any way. I like the comment about real men not peeing :cross:. I don't remember saying anything about real men or otherwise. But hey we are here to have fun and learn so if someone can come up with a recipe for a big tasting Belgian beer with an abv around 5 I am more than willing to give it a shot. Nneeds to be a tested recipe though I will only get one shot at this for the for the time being. I go to a rehabilitation hospital for a few weeks after thanksgiving and will not get any more chances to brew till after Christmas and maybe not then. Otherwise we will try doing one of my tried scotch ale recipes. I will have them work on my sense of humor while I am in the hospital. Everyone else lighten up this is funny s#!+! Can you imagine sending someone away to put on a diaper cause they didn't like your beer!big or not.
Just kiddin'. Hope all goes well. Hospitals suck! I might go again... but only if I can take beer.![]()
Care to share your recipe for that? I've never brewed a patersbier, and that sounds intriguing. Sometimes I'd like to enjoy more than a couple Belgian beers in a row just to enjoy the flavor, and not fall out of my chair!
So you're going to rehab and need something to drink before and after? Doesn't that kinda make rehab a bit of a waste?
Just kiddin'. Hope all goes well. Hospitals suck! I might go again... but only if I can take beer.![]()
I am moving do the session ale category. I have been so happy with the quick turnaround of british milds. I have been turning around wonderful milds in under 10 days from pitch to the first pint from the keg. I still like big beers, but the speed that session ales become ready to drink is fantastic! If you use the right yeast, at the right volume and temp... british mild ales can be very very rewarding as well as inexpensive!