and using whirlfloc on some beers and some not using it, I think it does help,but its not going to get your beer as clear as using a filtering system or something of the sort. I do not keg, and I bottle condition all my beer. Just dont have the funds to keg, nor the desire at this point. I have a chest freezer that I use to ferment in and also cold crash in. I have found that the cold crashing helps alot with getting hops to fall and also getting a more compact yeast cake. I just used 1/4 tsp of isinglass with one cup of boiled water on my last two batches that are in secondary awaiting the dry hop. I added the isinglass at the racking and not after the secondary was crashed (after reading I have heard adding the isinglass after it is chilled helps the solution drop more of the proteins that impart the chill haze to drop out. However, After doing all the above, I'm still not getting the clear beer any quicker than just putting the bottles in fridge after they have carbed to spec and the time spent in the fridge will get rid of the haze. Only problem is I have about 4 cases in storage of various styles of beer, and do not have a place to be able to refrigerate them in order to get rid of the haze. Obviously, its totally aesthetic and only is an issue when I want to present my beer to a person who has never drank a home brew and is looking for clarity that they are used to with the BMC's. I've got more issues Im trying to work on, but clarity is something that I think I will continue to try to perfect, but it seems nothing is better than a bottle in the fridge for 2-3 weeks after carbing. Not sure what would happen if you took that same bottle out after clearing and gave a six pack to a friend who had to re-refrigerate. Would the haze come back and require another 2 weeks? I don't know. I'm still very new to the hobby.