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so I brewed these two a week apart

4500kg Maris Otter
500g Special I
500g Munich
50g Pilgrim at 60
50g Cascade at 10
50g Cascade at flame out
Wyeast 1187 Ringwood yeast cake
carbonated with 1tsp per bottle

vs

(a week later)
5kg Maris Otter (500g more)
500g Special I
500g Munich
250g Chocolate (extra)
50g Pilgrim at 60
50g Citra at 10 (different hop and 50% less)
US-05 yeast cake (different)
carbonated with 150g dissolved in bottle bucket (different)

the second (with more MO, chocolate and less aroma) has already, after a week in bottle, turned in to something very special - easily the best I've brewed

the first is still flat (every time I sugar a bottle direct and not use dissolved in the bucked it comes out flat)

I'll drink the first under duress but it's really not great - aside from flat it's earthy, bitter in a bad way and just bland

the second beer is absolutely beautiful - silky, big head, depth of flavour - is that just a sum of the differences or something specific like the US-05 with dark grain? both followed same temps, mash etc. (I was using up some citra kicking around - this isn't AIPA citra taste at all - it's a wonderful subtle flavour)
 

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