Transferring wort to a priming bucket with a magnetic pump.

[Hamms]

I just hooked up a new Brew system and it has a magnetic pump installed in the setup. I was wondering if anybody has ever tried to use the magnetic pump to transfer Wort to a priming bucket for bottling? Is this pump too intense for this type of activity? I'm trying to avoid oxidation to the finished wort. Thanks!

 

[Keith81]

I've never tried it but suspect there would a significant amount of oxidation. There are self priming diaphragm pumps that claim to be good for transfers after fermentation but I've never used one.

 

[RPh_Guy]

No, you can't use it to transfer beer. The pump will release residual carbonation and stop working.

Welcome to HBT!

 

[Hamms]

No, you can't use it to transfer beer. The pump will release residual carbonation and stop working.

Welcome to HBT!

Thanks!
I'm not sure what you mean by residual carbonation?
I did find this video. And it looks like there's a lot of splashing going on when it goes into the either secondary, or a priming bucket not sure. So that's why I'm kind of deterred from using that in the first place.

 

[RPh_Guy]

Yeast excrete carbon dioxide when they ferment.
Some carbon dioxide is dissolved in the beer. The rest escapes as gas.

Agitation releases some of the residual dissolved carbon dioxide as gas. A centrifugal pump can't work with gas in it because of its mechanism.

 

[IslandLizard]

I did find this video. And it looks like there's a lot of splashing going on...

That's transferring wort from the boil kettle to a fermentation bucket. Aeration/oxygenation is good at that point, before or right after pitching yeast.

Once you pitch yeast wort becomes... beer!
And no, once alcohol is present air (oxygen) exposure should be avoided at all cost.

Can't you use a siphon and gravity to rack from your fermenter to a bottling bucket or keg?

 

[Hamms]

That's transferring wort from the boil kettle to a fermentation bucket. Aeration/oxygenation is good at that point, before or right after pitching yeast.

Once you pitch yeast wort becomes... beer!
And no, once alcohol is present air (oxygen) exposure should be avoided at all cost.

Can't you use a siphon and gravity to rack from your fermenter to a bottling bucket or keg?

So he is transferring it to a fermenter. For some reason I thought he was transferring it to something else.
Anyway, yeah I can just siphon it or just use gravity from the alepale spicket. I just wanted to make sure so I didn't mess up that new pump I just got, or my beer for that matter.
Thanks!

 

[IslandLizard]

So he is transferring it to a fermenter. For some reason I thought he was transferring it to something else.
Anyway, yeah I can just siphon it or just use gravity from the alepale spicket. I just wanted to make sure so I didn't mess up that new pump I just got, or my beer for that matter.
Thanks!

The name of the video is "Whirlpool and Fermentor transfer" if that's an indication of what he's doing.
He's definitely pumping wort, maybe he's whirlpooling, I see a vortex.
I also hear what sounds like short blasts of compressed air. Not sure what that's for.
But it looks like he's also transferring (not sure he's pumping) wort from the boil kettle to the fermenter (white bucket).

Is your beer in a bucket right now? Are you saying it has a spigot?
If so, you could attach a hose to it and let gravity drain it slowly into your bottling bucket with priming sugar solution. Don't let the beer splash, that causes oxidation! Also watch out for not transferring any (or too much) trub, you want clear beer in your bottles.

The bottling bucket should definitely have a spigot so you can attach a piece of hose and a bottling wand to it to fill bottles.

What kind of magnetic pump do you have? Is it like a March or Chugger pump? What are you planning to use it for?

 

[Hamms]

[QUOTE="What kind of magnetic pump do you have? Is it like a March or Chugger pump? What are you planning to use it for?[/QUOTE]

Yeah I guess I should have read that title before I posted the video.

The pump is part of this BIAB system I got from Clawhammer. It matches, boils and chills all in one pot. I'm not sure the manufacturer of the pump.

 

[IslandLizard]

The pump is part of this BIAB system I got from Clawhammer. It matches, boils and chills all in one pot. I'm not sure the manufacturer of the pump.

Ah! Yes that's a high temp sanitary (wort) pump.
Excellent for mash recirculation, chilling, whirlpooling, and pumping wort to a fermenter, etc. If there isn't already, mount a valve on the exit of the pump, so you can regulate the flow. 3-piece valves are the best as they can be taken apart easily for periodic thorough cleaning.

 

[Hamms]

Yeah, the kit came with one so you can regulate that flow. I haven't used it yet. But I'm going to give it its first go on Wednesday. I brewed before with extracts, and then I stepped up to full grain, keging, built a kegerator etc.
My buddy has most of my brewing equipment at his place. I took a hiatus from Brewing because of personal reasons in my life. So I'm recently getting back into it. I decided to go with this system since it's really simple and I want to make something that's mobile. As long as I have a water hookup and some electricity I can brew beer.

 

[IslandLizard]

Yeah, the kit came with one so you can regulate that flow. I haven't used it yet. But I'm going to give it its first go on Wednesday. I brewed before with extracts, and then I stepped up to full grain, keging, built a kegerator etc.
My buddy has most of my brewing equipment at his place. I took a hiatus from Brewing because of personal reasons in my life. So I'm recently getting back into it. I decided to go with this system since it's really simple and I want to make something that's mobile. As long as I have a water hookup and some electricity I can brew beer.

Enjoy your return to brewing!
That system looks very nice and should help making excellent beer. Pitch good yeast, make starters if using liquid yeasts, control your ferm temps, and avoid air/oxidation after pitching.
+1 to kegging!

 

[Hamms]

Enjoy your return to brewing!
That system looks very nice and should help making excellent beer. Pitch good yeast, make starters if using liquid yeasts, control your ferm temps, and avoid air/oxidation after pitching.
+1 to kegging!

Thanks!
I plan on getting a good starter going on this California ale yeast I'm going to pitch into this Stout I'm making. I haven't done bottling in quite some time. So I'm kind of worried about the oxygen thing during the beer transfer to the priming bucket. if I had my CO2 canister I just blast the bucket with CO2 just to make sure there's a nice level of it in there. But since I dont I guess I just got to be extra careful!

 

[IslandLizard]

Thanks!
I plan on getting a good starter going on this California ale yeast I'm going to pitch into this Stout I'm making. I haven't done bottling in quite some time. So I'm kind of worried about the oxygen thing during the beer transfer to the priming bucket. if I had my CO2 canister I just blast the bucket with CO2 just to make sure there's a nice level of it in there. But since I dont I guess I just got to be extra careful!

Shooting CO2 into an open bucket won't stay there very long, it mixes with ambient air quickly, especially when there is air movement.

If you're worried about oxidation, you can rack/transfer to a 100% liquid pre-purged keg. Then bottle from the keg under low pressure. Or (force) carbonate in the keg and bottle from there, using a counter pressure filler made with a rubber stopper.

 

[Soulshine2]

No, you can't use it to transfer beer. The pump will release residual carbonation and stop working.

Welcome to HBT!

OP wants to transfer wort, not beer

 

[IslandLizard]

OP wants to transfer wort, not beer

The OP used the wrong term, wort instead of beer. He did mean beer:

I was wondering if anybody has ever tried to use the magnetic pump to transfer Wort beer to a priming bucket for bottling?

My correction and bolding in red.

 

[william_shakes_beer]

So, now that we've sorted out the OP, I have a related question. How do breweries transport beer from fermenter to the bottling line? I know they inject co2 into the line as the beer flows, but there must be a pump somewhere ???

 

[IslandLizard]

So, now that we've sorted out the OP, I have a related question. How do breweries transport beer from fermenter to the bottling line? I know they inject co2 into the line as the beer flows, but there must be a pump somewhere ???

They even filter, or better yet, centrifuge beer!
All done while keeping residual DO levels in the low single ppb digits.
They use special pumps. Also their large volumes help, priming the system using 20-50 gallons of beer is the price of doing business.

I remember a canning truck was going to can homebrew batches. That was until they discovered, while onsite, that just filling and priming the system took more than 5 gallons...

 

[RPh_Guy]

They use special pumps.

Probably peristaltic pumps.