Great news @bracconiere , some times the road you take is not as important as is getting to the destination...but it does work for deculming...
Ha! @Homebrew Harry , a bit out of my wheel house. I was a lonely Maytag repair man and also in HVAC for a while. A good wiring diagram can lead you to the problem on those older mechanical machines pretty easy. My dad had a motto: "It's a mechanical thing, if every thing is right, it has to work. As much as it seems sometimes, they have no mind of their own."subbed in case kart shows up to ad sensors, wifi and cameras to this device..
I'm not sure what that resistor is for either, but it looks like it may have been for low heat.Does that resistor have any #'s on it? (like 4500? as in ohm) I only see one resistor on the wire diag. and not sure what it did for sure. I'm just curious, it has no relevance any longer. Just me being me.
Yeah, the humming thing is not good. If you get running without the humming you should be good. I don't think the switch you have is actualy what they call a "3-way" switch. How many terminels are there on the switch? 3 or 6?well i got my undwear in a bind right now.....i'm deculming with this thing, if i turn it too...one on it hums, and turns, if i switch it too off it keeps turning, but stops humming.....i have a fire exstinguisher out of the box next to it, just in case!!! i hope the loud humming is what i DON'T need besides getting it rolling....
Yeah, the humming thing is not good. If you get running without the humming you should be good. I don't think the switch you have is actualy what they call a "3-way" switch. How many terminels are there on the switch? 3 or 6?
looks exactly like that, without the holographic layout? and i would with the way i have it hooked up now, if i flip it to far to the other on postion, it blows my surge protector, but works great between one one side, and in the off position.....which i need to think more about, because i think i have the motor hard wired to the power cable, but only the start coil wired to the switch....
i think that may work like i want it to....appreciate the help again, will report back if i'm still alive, and if it works!@bracconiere Hey I think this should work for you. (See Diagram)
Switch is center off.
One position will send power to both the start & run windings to get the motor going. Hold for a 1/2 to 1 second and then quickly move switch to the other position and it should remain running. With the toggle "up" power flows to the bottom contacts and vice-versa. If you look at the last pic I sent you, you can see what contacts make in what switch position. (Look by the toggle lever)
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Also a couple of helpful links (1) & (2) about those kind of switches
i just pulled all the original wiring out of the dryer, and am using it with their spades....^ Or instead use 2 single pole switches, like $2-3 regular light switches. Put them next to each other. One switch to engage the Run winding the other to momentarily turn on the Start winding to get the drum rolling.
[ADDED] Those small lever switches are not really made for thick and stiff wiring. But as @kartracer2 said, use spade connectors to connect the wiring to the (small) electronics switch. Shrink tubing over the bare ends.
Oh yeah, I know where I'm coming if I ever find myself with some extra sprouted grain !just hooked up the switch as suggested, works perfect! Thanks again!
edit: and to put people's minds at ease, this will ONLY be plugged in while it's being used for deculming! (and into to a surge protector)
Oh yeah, I know where I'm coming if I ever find myself with some extra sprouted grain !
Also, this thread has been a very enjoyable read, designing and troubleshooting a weird dryer modification!
I agree...Hats off to Brac for making it happen and Kart for tech support !Also, this thread has been a very enjoyable read, designing and troubleshooting a weird dryer modification!
HA HA hahahaaa, no offense buddy but yeah, I would tend to agree!! Think of the lessons though, you should be a wiser man today than before you started,,, RIGHT? (LMAO).(but really if i knew how to hook up a 220v dryer to a 120v cord in the first place, i think this would have been 2-3 posts! )
I agree...Hats off to Brac for making it happen and Kart for tech support !
There were a few times I wanted to chime in on the wiring, but did not want to step on any toes.
Good thread indeed
@bracconiere In you particular situation see the attached photo. It may or may not apply to any other dryer you find. That's where a wiring diagram is important. You can tell from the actual wiring (following the paths) if you know what to look for also.
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As far as lessons, I was referencing to centrifugal motor switches and the like. I'm not scolding you for tearing ass in to your dryer, I'm not that way.
Referring back to my dad, he believed that it was more important to understand how and why things work. Only then, can you find the problem when they are not.
LOL,, not really. Maybe the start coil you are thinking about might be a capacitor start motor, a different animal. Not going to get into those at this point.jumping a ac motor with fake 3 phase? i think that's what the start coil does right? kinda like hitting the nitrous in a hollywood car race?
Would hate to see the vibration rubbing through the insulation and causing a short. Just thinking of safety and all.
I was just gonna mention it seeing the yellow wire coming out like that!Hey @bracconiere , I got to thinking that I would strongly recommend using something like this where your yellow cable enters the dryer. Should be able to find one at any local hardware store. (Ace, Do It Best, Home Depot, etc.) Would hate to see the vibration rubbing through the insulation and causing a short. Just thinking of safety and all.
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Just thinking of you buddy!!
Well you could tie a knot in the cord inside the dryer or a zip tie wrapped around the cord a couple of times then zip it real tight so it doesn't pull out. I have done that but the hole was rounded over (no sharp edges). And yeah, tape the hell out of it if you don't use the proper clamp.