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If it was a road game I'd give the edge to Dallas. At home though I don't see Seattle letting this one get away with a shot at taking out a cascadia cup member on the way to the title game.

But could be the homer in me.
 
I'm actually rooting for Portland in this one because I REALLY want to see Seattle and Portland face off for a trip to the Cup!
 
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If it was a road game I'd give the edge to Dallas. At home though I don't see Seattle letting this one get away with a shot at taking out a cascadia cup member on the way to the title game.

But could be the homer in me.

Well, it is a home and away series, and Seattle is really banged up on the back line in particular. We'll see who's healthy tomorrow and go from there.
 
Big playoff day! Holy crap, so much soccer!

12pm (all times Pacific) - DC United vs New York Red Bulls
- RBNY has definitely been the most consistent club all season and they look especially strong in the last couple months. DC have an incredibly high talent ceiling but they will have tired legs. One thing to note is that Boswell is suspended.

2pm - Portland Timbers vs Vancouver Whitecaps
- Wow, Portland have looked scary the last month or so. If Adi keeps playing like he has I think Portland will go in to Leg 2 with the advantage. Vancouver are always a team to watch and have been impressive especially considering they have the youngest team in the league due to players stepping in fill the roles of injured veterans.

4pm - Montreal Impact vs Columbus Crew
- Montreal is another club that has been scary lately, mostly since the Drogba signing. But they have other threats in Piatti and Bernier. Columbus are always a question mark, IMHO. If they show up to play this should be a very exciting match.

6:30pm - Seattle Sounders vs FC Dallas
- Seattle are always contenders and if Ozzy is healthy they will come out strong. If they bring the pace they did in the knockout round then the Dallas backline will have their hands full. The Hoops have slipped slightly at the end of the season but are still filled with tons of talent and can also play a fast-paced game.


Predictions:
DCU v RBNY: 2-3
PTFC v WCFC: 3-1
IMFC v CCSC: 2-2
SSFC v FCD: 1-1
 
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Drogba should be suspended for the next match. Him only getting one yellow for this incredibly dangerous tackle was bad, then to add insult to potential injury that shenanigans holding.

It's unlikely he'll get a suspension. For one thing, the Disciplinary council of MLS usually is unlikely to add a suspension to a carded offense. For another thing, believe it or not...technically it's not a red card offense. It's true! Look at the FIFA rules and you'll find nothing related to it, it's not violent conduct. Technically speaking, a yellow card is the right call.
 
So, one game gone, how are my prognostications holding up?

New York Red Bulls vs DC United: Not bad at all, New York starts the series with a 1-0 win. Sure, DC United only needs 1 goal to tie up the away goals, but it's unlikely the Red Bulls will drop points at home. A bigger concern might be Perinelle's injury though, long term that could hurt the New York Red Bulls.

Vancouver Whitecaps vs Portland Timbers: A 0-0 tie is not ideal for Vancouver, they have the worst home record of all of the teams in the playoffs. That said, I'd still Vancouver has a good shot to win this.

Columbus Crew vs Montreal Impact: A 2-1 win for the Impact is pretty good, but Columbus could still steal this. A 1-0 win at home is all Columbus needs to punch their ticket.

FC Dallas vs Seattle Sounders: Same scenario as Montreal and Columbus, a 1-0 win by Dallas could seal it.
 
Oof what an exciting game.....Dempsey just when I think he's not in the game he goes and does something amazing.
 
Oof what an exciting game.....Dempsey just when I think he's not in the game he goes and does something amazing.

He tends to do that (for USMNT more so). He'll do nothing for the longest time and then explode in a moment of brilliance.
 
Dempsey really does his best work when people sort of forget about him, then he'll show up in the right (or wrong, depending on your perspective) place at the right time and make you go "Wow".
 
Dempsey really does his best work when people sort of forget about him, then he'll show up in the right (or wrong, depending on your perspective) place at the right time and make you go "Wow".

Its only wrong for the other team, long as he keeps putting the ball in the net im ok with it. :ban:
 
Wow... Jason Kreis and his assistants Miles Joseph and CJ Brown have been sacked by NYCFC. Looks like we have an early runner for a new turnstile club!
 
Wow... Jason Kreis and his assistants Miles Joseph and CJ Brown have been sacked by NYCFC. Looks like we have an early runner for a new turnstile club!

Tell me if you've heard this one before: A foreign-backed club comes in believing they will dominate the league, fails to make the massive impact they thought, then decides its all the coach's fault, why yes, that's Chivas USA. So everyone please welcome Man City USA! I can't wait until they get sued for only hiring English people and people with English ancestry.
 
Wow... Jason Kreis and his assistants Miles Joseph and CJ Brown have been sacked by NYCFC. Looks like we have an early runner for a new turnstile club!

Here's my take. If Kries was the one responsible for the DP moves, he deserves to be fired. Villa was good, he's the brightspot DP move. Brining on old Frank Lampard when you already had Diskerud was the first mistake. The second was by City's ownership who then kept Lampard in Manchester so he could ride the bench. If you wanted Mix, don't get Lampard, if you wanted Lampard don't get Mix. Those 2 moves together didn't make sense. Instead they could have gotten ALtidore as a striking partner for Villa or Kljestan as a more versatile midfielder (which is how they're using Mix but Mix isn't that type of player) gotten a winger in Farfan or a promising young central mid in Pelosi. Anyway just a waste. Imagine if you would they were the ones to go all out and get Villa and Giovinco instead of Villa and Lampard? ANy number of scenarios IMO work out to be better for NYCFC than getting Lampard. After that the real ****up happens and that's going full stupid and bringing in Pirlo. Pirlo is extremely talented, BUT he plays Serie A as a position who's job it basically is to be a passer and that's it. That doesn't exist in MLS because the league is so athletic driven. Without the talented players at the end of his passes who know the system Pirlo is basically worthless. Could be the worst DP signing since Rafa Marquez.
 
So, one game gone, how are my prognostications holding up?

New York Red Bulls vs DC United: Not bad at all, New York starts the series with a 1-0 win. Sure, DC United only needs 1 goal to tie up the away goals, but it's unlikely the Red Bulls will drop points at home. A bigger concern might be Perinelle's injury though, long term that could hurt the New York Red Bulls.

Vancouver Whitecaps vs Portland Timbers: A 0-0 tie is not ideal for Vancouver, they have the worst home record of all of the teams in the playoffs. That said, I'd still Vancouver has a good shot to win this.

Columbus Crew vs Montreal Impact: A 2-1 win for the Impact is pretty good, but Columbus could still steal this. A 1-0 win at home is all Columbus needs to punch their ticket.

FC Dallas vs Seattle Sounders: Same scenario as Montreal and Columbus, a 1-0 win by Dallas could seal it.

Some of my commentary (though I'm hardly an expert and missed the first 2 matches for the most part)

NYRB are certainly in the drivers seat. Couldn't ask for more than being up 1-0 with a road goal. Of course NYRB defense has been porous all year. But all they need is enough goals to win or draw.

Vancouver will be feeling good with a draw. Timbers massively outplayed them and it took some luck to get there. I think Portland is the favorites to go through after their play on Sunday but Vancouver just needs a win at home and that's it.

Montreal got the right result IMO. Columbus conceded the most goals during the regular season. All Montreal has to do now is match them. Idont' think Columbus can hold Montreal goalless considering their form.

Seattle is in the same boat. a goalless win would have done them better, but they have to be happy. I expect Dallas to advance though. Seattle has to be praying Ozzy and Evans will be healthy.
 
Here's my take. If Kries was the one responsible for the DP moves, he deserves to be fired. Villa was good, he's the brightspot DP move. Brining on old Frank Lampard when you already had Diskerud was the first mistake. The second was by City's ownership who then kept Lampard in Manchester so he could ride the bench. If you wanted Mix, don't get Lampard, if you wanted Lampard don't get Mix. Those 2 moves together didn't make sense. Instead they could have gotten ALtidore as a striking partner for Villa or Kljestan as a more versatile midfielder (which is how they're using Mix but Mix isn't that type of player) gotten a winger in Farfan or a promising young central mid in Pelosi. Anyway just a waste. Imagine if you would they were the ones to go all out and get Villa and Giovinco instead of Villa and Lampard? ANy number of scenarios IMO work out to be better for NYCFC than getting Lampard. After that the real ****up happens and that's going full stupid and bringing in Pirlo. Pirlo is extremely talented, BUT he plays Serie A as a position who's job it basically is to be a passer and that's it. That doesn't exist in MLS because the league is so athletic driven. Without the talented players at the end of his passes who know the system Pirlo is basically worthless. Could be the worst DP signing since Rafa Marquez.

Rumor was that Kreis didn't really want Pirlo at all, and was ambivalent about bringing in Lampard midseason, but upper management overruled him and he tried to make it work. I don't know how true those rumors are, but given Kreis' personality they seem to fit the mold. Remember, Kreis doesn't hold the keys to the roster like a European coach, that goes to GM Claudio-Reyna.

To be clear, I think you can make Villa, Lampard and Mix work, make Lampard a CAM and have Mix play on the right, as he has done successfully for the USMNT before, played with a true CDM, that could work extremely well. Alternatively play a 4-5-1 with two CAMs in Mix and Lampard, again with a true CDM and wingers.

Adding Pirlo into the mix is an issue. Pirlo in Juventus typically played in a 3-5-2 or 4-3-3, surrounded by defensive players so he could focus on putting service into the forwards; in that sort of setup speed isn't as much of an issue and Pirlo didn't have to defend. NYCFC isn't set up like that though, they're in a 4-4-2 formation that relies on the midfield clogging things up, and Pirlo doesn't or can't do that. With Pirlo you have two players (Lampard and Pirlo) in the midfield that don't defend, Mix is something of a two-way midfielder but he's not a dedicated defender. That leaves you with one midfielder that's truly defensive, and for NYCFC that man is Andrew Jacobson. To be clear, Andrew Jacobson isn't bad as far as CDMs go, but he's no Ozzie Alonso or Dax McCarthy, the sort of player that can absolutely shut down attacks with great positioning and sheer grit, he's a journeyman with a lot of experience in MLS.

To be quite blunt, NYCFC's problem is not Jason Kreis in my opinion. The mothership expected playoffs in the first year, and that's just not realistic for an expansion team. Ownership thinks that if you throw enough money at it, you can become great in MLS almost instantly, and that's simply not the case.
 
The Problem was adding Pirlo. Mix doesn't play well wide. He plays best in the same position as Lampard. Best lineup construction is a 4-5-1 for them with Pirlo holding and Mix and Lampard behind the striker, but to make that work they need awesome defenders because Pirlo is worthless in defense.

I agree 100% with your last paragraph.

NYCFC has to get rid of Pirlo if they want a prayer. Replace him with a more capable DP. Especially with names like Rooney, Ronaldo, and Ibra coming along the way potentially. Villa is fine, Lampard is probably fine. Imagine if Villa paired with Rooney?
 
While I agree Mix isn't at his best wide...he does okay. But yes, ideally you would deploy a 4-5-1 with mix and Lampard as a double CAM underneath. One problem with that is that you are then letting a seemingly very good young striker in Khiry Shelton rot on the bench...but if you bring him on as extra firepower for a midfielder in the last 30 minutes when you're down or you have him sub in for Villa, that's not a bad option. Now that I think about it, actually a 3-5-2 wouldn't be a terrible option sans Pirlo (ironically), Khiry Shelton and David Villa up top, Lampard and Mix as CAMs, two wingers and a CDM. Alternative crazy pants idea: abandon width entirely and go for a 4-2-2-2, double forwards, double CAMs, double CDMs.
 
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best part was when the ref signaled for a goal kick and Old Trafford cheered because they thought he was pointing at the penalty spot.
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