Swivel Nut Flares Connectors... what standard?

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Anyone know what is the standard for the threaded flare connectors used with corny keg disconnects? like this one...
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Are they JIC or something else? TIA!
 

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They are MFL (Male Flare) and FFL (Female Flare). Thread is 7/16-20 UNF. JIC -4 is also 7/16-20.... not sure if the flare is the same though. Lots of flare adapters available from brewery fitting vendors. What are you trying to do? I'll see if I can find a JIC -4 sitting around and see if it seals against a MFL/FFL.
 

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Ugh. I think I missed the point here. Sorry 'bout that.
But now I'm curious why the OP wants to know the thread style...

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The reason I'm asking is because I want to source parts that will seat properly with threaded corny disconnects, for spunding valve builds. I've had some where there was a slow leak there, and this is one of the variables I want to eliminate.

ETA: I believe "male flare" and "female flare" are generic terms and can apply to several different specs.
 

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You are correct, there are many subtypes of flare fittings that aren't perfectly interchangeable due to threading specs. That said, I have not run into any problems in that regard wrt brewery plumbing...

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There are 37 and 45 degree fittings, some do the AN, etc.

My tactic has been to order from places that specialize in brew stuff, assuming their parts are compatible (i.e. Flare Fittings : The CHI Company, New and used beverage equipment for Homebrewing, Home winemaking, Soda systems and used Pepsi vending equipment), and the other things is to not forget the nylon washers when there's metal-metal going together (Nylon Flare Fitting Washers [Nylon Flare Washers] : The CHI Company, New and used beverage equipment for Homebrewing, Home winemaking, Soda systems and used Pepsi vending equipment).

I've solved my leaks ever since.
 

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standard plumbing “flare“ works fine and seals. But you want 1/8” female flare from the plumbing supply to connect to corny 1/4“ flare disconnects.

at least that’s worked for me at the local ace hardware shop. HD/Lowe’s never seem to have anything below 1/4”.
 
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You are correct, there are many subtypes of flare fittings that aren't perfectly interchangeable due to threading specs. That said, I have not run into any problems in that regard wrt brewery plumbing...

My tactic has been to order from places that specialize in brew stuff, assuming their parts are compatible (i.e. Flare Fittings : The CHI Company, New and used beverage equipment for Homebrewing, Home winemaking, Soda systems and used Pepsi vending equipment),

Do either of you know of a "brewery plumbing 1/4" Female Flare" x 1/4" MPT adapter?
 

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Prebuilt spunding valves have greatly dropped in price over the last 2-5 years.

Examples
 
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Using a washer a -4 JIC plug sealed against a FFL at 60psi. Threads are the same, end angle looks the same. Think it's safe to say the the "flare fittings" commonly sold at brewery supplies for kegging -4 JIC fittings.

That was above and beyond the call. Thanks!

ETA: BTW, what tubing is that? (I've had some issues with duo-tight fittings being fussy.)
 
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Cheers! (Our Aussie brethren are so advanced wrt beer tubing, fittings, faucets. WTH? ;))

They're making up for all those years of no mash tuns, no active wort cooling, and packaging in twisty cap PET bottles?
 
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An update. The fitting I had a leak issue with was the LASCO 17-6783:
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It's recommended as replacement for the hard-to-find (Amazon is usually out of stock) Eaton 1/4″ NPT Male x 1/4″ Female JIC fitting by at least one spunding valve build site. I contacted LASCO and learned that their 17-6783 is in fact a 45 degree fitting, and not a 37 degree JIC. Well damn. So I found the Eaton JIC fitting (P/N 2018-4-4S) at new-line.com:
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New-line is in Canada, but they do ship to the U.S. I have half a dozen en route. (I also found this part at Grainger, but it's way more expensive, even when factoring in shipping.)
 
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Do you need the swivel? If not the $8 one from brewers hardware I linked above will work

The swivel is nice. But if I couldn't get it, I'd try the one from brewers hardware, which (I assume) is also JIC.
 
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