Substitute for Caravienne

[JimmyT555]

Hi All,

I am going to brew a Saison tomorrow and my fermentables are as follows: 12 lbs Belgian pils, .5 lbs caravienne, 1 lbs cane sugar.

Unfortunately, my LHBS was out of caravienne. Therefore, I decided to substitute 0.25 lbs crystal 20 and 0.25 Vienna. Anyone ever tried this? Any thoughts on how it will turn out?

 

[Yooper]

Cara Vienna is a crystal malt. You can sub the same amount of Crystal 20L.


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[poptarts]

Weyermann call theirs Cara Red.

 

[JimmyT555]

so it would have been better to use just crystal 20 and no Vienna?

 

[stpug]

Cara Ruby, Belgian Cara 20 are also perfect subs

 

[Yooper]

so it would have been better to use just crystal 20 and no Vienna?

Yes. Caravienne is another name for a crystal malt (cara- anything is a crystal/caramel malt).

A description from brew365: CaraVienne is a pale to medium crystal-type malt produced by De Wolf-Cosyns Maltings malting in Belgium. Like other 'cara' style malts this variety is malted using a technique where green (sprouted) malted is drum-roasted to produce some non-fermentable sugars. The result is some added sweetness and body. In addition, CaraVienne is then roasted to about 24L to produce a slightly toasty, and smoothly sweet malt.
Typical Use : Adjunct
Lovibond : 20 - 24 Lovibond
Origination : Belgium
Flavor/Aroma : Sweet, Bready, Light roast, smooth maltiness.
Styles : Suitable substitute for Caramel malts (Belgian Abbey Ales, English Bitter, German Marzen, US APA.


In other words, it's another name for a crystal malt produced by a Belgian maltster. It doesn't have anything to do with Vienna malt.