some help with left over grain

[springer]

I have some grains that I want ti use up and have been playing with some recipes. This will use up most of what I have just maybe a little adjustment here and there?

OG 1.047
FG 1.012
IBU 20
ABV 4.5 %
SRM 22

Specifics
Boil Volume 7 gallons
Batch Size 5.5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

Style Comparison
Low High
OG 1.047
FG 1.012
IBU 20
SRM 22
ABV 4.5



Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
70.0 % 7.00 Belgian Pils 33.4 2.3
10.0 % 1.00 Crystal 10L 4.2 1.8
5.0 % 0.50 Black Patent 2.0 45.5
10.0 % 1.00 CaraPils 4.5 0.3
5.0 % 0.50 Wheat Malt 2.7 0.2
10.00 46.8

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) AA% Boil Time
33.3 % 0.50 Challenger 7.5 60
33.3 % 0.50 Cascade 6.6 15
33.3 % 0.50 Cascade 6.6 flame out

 

[Yooper]

I like it, except I think that's way too much black patent. Of course, I don't like it, so I think any amount is too much. Maybe 4 ounces would be better than 8, though. Especially with a nice malt like pilsner malt. I'd leave that out, and use the rest of the recipe. I'd do a 90 minute boil, because of the pilsner malt.

 

[springer]

Thanks Yooper . I am looking for the roasted/smoked flavor I could use the Rauch I have, but was looking for more of a dark robust porter/stout type beer . I was thinking last night that maybe I should add some molasses maybe 1/2 to 1lb. Haven't made up my mind yet , this weekend is Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale so I have time to fine tune the recipe.

 

[Chriso]

If you have Rauch sitting around... I would add between 2oz - 3oz of Black Patent, and then a healthy dose of Rauch. The Patent will darken it up a little, but still not be overpowering, and let the smoke come through.

The base recipe looks pretty solid.

 

[springer]

If you have Rauch sitting around... I would add between 2oz - 3oz of Black Patent, and then a healthy dose of Rauch. The Patent will darken it up a little, but still not be overpowering, and let the smoke come through.

The base recipe looks pretty solid.

I have 1lb of Rauch if I drop the black down to 3-4 oz how much Rauch should I add?

 

[Chriso]

Rauch ain't strong - 1lb for a moderate smoky presence, drop it to .5 lb for a very soft presence.

1# rauch plus 3 oz Patent should make for an interesting balance of roast, bitterness, and smokiness. With the rauch in there, you might want to drop the flame-out hop addition.... Or maybe not?

I need to play around with more smoked pale ales and IPAs to get to know how the smoke + hop works together.

 

[springer]

did a recheck of the grain I have and this is what I am going with

OG 1.056
FG 1.014
IBU 28
ABV 5.4 %
SRM 23

Specifics
Boil Volume 7 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

Safale S-04



Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
64.4 % 7.00 Belgian Pils 36.8 2.5
9.2 % 1.00 Crystal 10L 4.7 2.0
1.1 % 0.13 Black Patent 0.5 12.5
6.9 % 0.75 CaraPils 3.7 0.3
4.6 % 0.50 Wheat Malt 2.9 0.2
9.2 % 1.00 German Smoked 5.6 1.8
4.6 % 0.50 American Chocolate 2.2 35.0
10.88 56.3

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop AA% AAU Boil Time
42.9 % 0.75 Challenger 7.5 5.6 60
28.6 % 0.50 Cascade 6.6 3.3 15
28.6 % 0.50 Cascade 6.6 3.3 flame out

154* mash for 60 min with 1.25 qts per pound.


thanks for the input Yooper and Chriso

 

[Bob]

If you drop the Rauch, keep the Black Patent where it is, you can call it "Porter".

But for the Pils malt, it's pretty much a recipe straight out of Foster's Porter! And how often do you see a plain ol' porter these days?

Bob

 

[springer]

I made this over the weekend . Took some pics but the damn camera or the card crapped out, Damn file error .

Came out a very nice rich color with nice smokey tones to the aroma. I'll post some of it in the carboy. Its bubbling along at 65* . the only thing I had to change was to use Safale05 when I hydrated the 04 it did nothing just clumped up and sank.


come to think of it this is the second time the 04 failed to do anything and I ordered them at the same time from the same place only a month old and kept in the fridge

 

[springer]

Well this has been in the keg for 3 days and I tried some last night. I will make this again I was going to have just a taste and 3 pints later it just got better. very dark almost black in color The smoke flavor is very subtle with a slight chocolate linger and the mouthfeel is wonderful I dont think this will last long



Went from 1.064 to 1.016