RIMS in control panel

[Goblism]

I am wondering if anyone is running a RIMS setup with a 30 amp control panel. I am looking into this option but I am unsure of how to wire the RIMS as I will be running 1375w (11.5 amps) for the RIMS and if I were to run the BK or HLT at the same time (5500w/~23 amp) I will be tripping breakers.

Should I just be considering a HERMS for this reason alone? I won't be building my control panel for a while as I plan to run my BK and HLT on PWM (already setup for 40amp) for a while and was going to use a PID I have wired up for my smoker to run the RIMS in the meantime.

 

[atoughram]

Sounds like you'd be tripping breakers unless you uprated your RIMS element to a 2000W 240V.

 

[Brumateur]

240v * 30a= 7200 Watt. So there is no problem to run 5500Watt element and 1500Watt RIMS element simultaneously. But you need a 1500Watt /240Volt element connected to 240 V.
Or an interlock circuit.

 

[USAFSooner]

You could run the RIMS off a separate 120V circuit. I just built a RIMS with a 220V 5500W element, run it, the PID, and a chugger off the 15A circuit and it's fine.


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[USAFSooner]

The 5500W element is ran at 120V so it's more like 1300W


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[Blktre]

You could run the RIMS off a separate 120V circuit. I just built a RIMS with a 220V 5500W element, run it, the PID, and a chugger off the 15A circuit and it's fine.


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I was initially considering doing this myself. By the time I added up cost to run a separate 20amp circuit along with a 30amp 240v circuit it made more sense running a 50amp 240v circuit and breaking off the 120v stuff inside my control box. I suppose if you already have a 20amp circuit nearby the idea would be more feasible.

 

[USAFSooner]

I was assuming a near by 15 or 20 Amp outlet yes


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[atoughram]

240v * 30a= 7200 Watt. So there is no problem to run 5500Watt element and 1500Watt RIMS element simultaneously. But you need a 1500Watt /240Volt element connected to 240 V.
Or an interlock circuit.

When someone finds a 1500W 240V element I'd like to know... I've been looking...

 

[USAFSooner]

Run a 120v 1500w element off one leg of the 240V.


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[atoughram]

Run a 120v 1500w element off one leg of the 240V.


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1500W @ 120V = 12.5amp
5500W @ 240V = 23amp

Add it all up and you get 35.5amp on one leg...

30amp breaker popped...

 

[Goblism]

1500W @ 120V = 12.5amp
5500W @ 240V = 23amp

Add it all up and you get 35.5amp on one leg...

30amp breaker popped...

You need to run off of one leg to get 120 he means. I am just going to go rims and setup a 50amp panel down the road. Would do 50 amp right now but probably moving in a year or two and not worth the investment

 

[atoughram]

You need to run off of one leg to get 120 he means. I am just going to go rims and setup a 50amp panel down the road. Would do 50 amp right now but probably moving in a year or two and not worth the investment

You need to get the 120 from a different breaker - if you split it off of the same breaker you'll end up tripping the breaker because one leg will have too much current.

 

[Brumateur]

1500W @ 120V = 12.5amp
5500W @ 240V = 23amp

Add it all up and you get 35.5amp on one leg...

30amp breaker popped...

1500Watt at 240v = 6.25 A

With 5500 Watt it will be 29.2A. Breaker will not pop.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XPGGFU/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

 

[atoughram]

1500Watt at 240v = 6.25 A

With 5500 Watt it will be 29.2A. Breaker will not pop.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000XPGGFU/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

Correct - thanks for the link!

although that's a HWD unit... probably an issue.

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